Talk:Project Genesis

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The torpedo was detonated inside the starship Reliant, which was itself inside a nebula of highly charged gaseous particles. As a result, it had to basically create an entire star system from scratch - a G type star, as well as the planet itself. However, the original design did include a subroutine for star creation, that was utilized for the creation of the Genesis planet's sun, and presumably there was a planet formation routine as well that were both flexible enough to create an active solar system, even from nebula material. Otherwise the torpedo would not have been able to form those coherent structures for even a short time.

Should this be included? The novels aren't really canon, and Regula was well illuminated in Star Trek II, which would suggest an existing star. --DaveJB 23:03, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

  • I agree - the books aren't usually seen as canon, and it is widely believed that the star seen in the movie was there all along, that it is the one that Regula was in orbit around --Crais459 19:26, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
  • I agree also that there was already a star in that system, and I think also that the Genesis Wave did not create a planet from scratch, rather that it was the planetoid Regula itself that became the Genesis Planet. When Dr. Marcus is explaining Genesis on the proposal tape, she states "it is a process whereby molecular structure is reorganized at the sub-atomic level into life-generating matter of equal mass...". As the Mutara Nebula would not have the necessary mass to form a even a planet, let alone an entire star system as has been suggested, the next most logical possibility is as I mentioned above. Wingnutmax 14:31, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
Why wouldn't the nebula have enough mass to form a planet? Evercat 00:59, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
I have to agree with Wingnutmax that my understanding of how the Genesis Planet was formed was that it was created outof the planetoid Regula. Does anyone have any evidence from the movie cannon (not books) that it was formed out of the Mutara Nebula instead? A friend of mine assumed this was the case, but I have to wonder. Stephenw77 12:11, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Merge

There has been a merge tag on Genesis Device for a long time - could someone who knows the subject make the merge, or comment why it shouldn't be done. Kcordina Talk 09:43, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

The only material that wasn't duplicated is copied below - everything else was in the article. I couldn't see how the material would easily fit so haven't included it. Kcordina Talk 09:16, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Both factors rendered the Genesis Planet unstable and short-lived, and so the experiment became a failure; however due to its destructive power beyond any known weapon, the device afterward became coveted for military purposes. It's debatable what effect the torpedo would have had if it was used as intended. The Genesis Device has not been seen since, and it is generally assumed its plans were destroyed or were being kept under lock and key, or else banned by treaty.

[edit] Merge Where?

Considering the need for disambiguation of " Project Genesis", wouldn't it be better to put this entry under Genesis Device instead?