Talk:Proactive, Preemptive Operations Group

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[edit] Blatant Vandalism by User TDC

User TDC ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:TDC ) is repeatedly deleting documentation on the Proactive, Preemptive Operations Group article in a vandalic manner. This includes the actual publicly published U.S. government P2OG document; a Federation of American Scientists article on it; a St. Petersburg Times article on it which was chosen number four in Project Censored's Censored 2004: The Top 25 Censored Media Stories of 2002-2003; among others.

Previous to the above recent information which I added to the article, I am the one who placed this article at its current properly-named location while concomitantly improving the formatting of the references and adding a displayed quotation from the Los Angeles Times. I mention this to point out that I have a demonstrated history of adding value to the article, whereas all TDC has done is destory valuable information within the article.

Based upon the manner of TDC's deletions and his own writings on his user page, it's rather apparent that TDC greatly dislikes the more ignoble and possibly even criminal aspects of P2OG being brought to light due to his particular political stance, and hence is censoring this information (including the actual publicly published P2OG document itself) from off of the article in an attempt to bolster the U.S. government's image.

Below is my recent edit of 19:07, 20 June 2007 209.208.77.89 wherein I add these further documentational and informational resources:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Proactive%2C_Preemptive_Operations_Group&oldid=139486505

Below is TDC's edit of 02:31, 21 June 2007 TDC wherein he deletes all said added documentational and informational resources:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Proactive%2C_Preemptive_Operations_Group&oldid=139567308

Below are all of the above-said documentational and informational resources which I recently included in the entry:

--209.208.77.195 21:10, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Project censored is, to say the least, not credible as they are now hawking the wears of such journalistic minds as Jason Leopold and have 9/11 Truther stories now. The Hersh article does not mention PPOG, so I don’t se how its relevant. Lastly, there is no evidence that this was ever implemented, just proposed. Torturous Devastating Cudgel 20:38, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
Jason Leopold has no relevancy to you blatant vandalism of this entry. While you claim that Project Censored is not "credible," that also is not relevant to your actions, since regardless of what you think of the organization, it is notable. The White House is hardly credible, but if it issues a statement then the fact that it did so can be cited if relevant to a particular subject, even if it is a barefaced lie.
The Seymour M. Hersh article is relevant to the P2OG entry because he provides information that the type of "black world" (black operations) tactics proposed by P2OG are still being pushed for and implemented by the Pentagon, even if possibly under a different operational code-name.
And needless to say, nothing in your above rationale provides any justification for deleting the actual publicly-published U.S. government P2OG document and the article on it by the Federation of American Scientists.--209.208.77.195 21:10, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
Using Hersch's work to provide context to the "black world" as it relates to P2OG is a violation of WP:SYNT, please read up on it. Torturous Devastating Cudgel 21:12, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
It's not original research, since no claim is made in the article concerning it. Seymour M. Hersh provides the research, which is in turn cited by Chris Floyd.--209.208.77.195 21:52, 21 June 2007 (UTC)