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wtf? was this pictures seriously taken in 1911...??

Yes. See Sergei Mikhailovich Prokudin-Gorskii


i am amazed that this was the picture of the day on November 16, 2006 since it is only October 25, 2006. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Emit flesti (talk • contribs) .

It has been selected as the picture of the day for November 16, 2006. --KFP (talk | contribs) 14:43, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Am i the only one

who thinks this guy looks like someone straight out of the movie Aladdin?

I agree.--64.121.1.55 04:41, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] No way! 1911?

This picture's quality is way too good!--64.121.1.55 04:40, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

As the original says, this wasn't taken as an actual color photograph. Instead, it was three monochrome images, one each of red, green, and blue. The Library of Congress recently redid several of the photographer's pictures by digitizing and combining the separate images to make one high quality color image. -- kenb215 talk 05:00, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
See, now that makes more sense. That's really neat. Valley2city 21:50, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
You can see it clearly due to his boots. Mallerd 18:33, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] I have a problem...

... believing this is from 1911...

  • It genuinely is from 1911. Prokudin-Gorskii figured out a way to take color photographs without using modern color film. This is one of his works. DS 14:27, 16 November 2006 (UTC)


[edit] I don't buy it

There is no way a I believe this to be a hundred year old photo. This looks like the sort of guy in some central-Asian city which dresses up for the tourists so they can have a cool souvenir pic. The color is amazing, and if it truly were 3 overlapping RGB images, then there wold be either imperfect superposition (due to the movement of the subject between one color shot and the next, oooooor, a 3D effect, like un red-blue 3D images, in which each camera for each color, being placed one next to the other, will give slightly diferent points of view. --Cuyaya 15:00, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

  • Scans of the three original photographs are available at the Library of Congress website (here). --KFP (talk | contribs) 15:12, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
  • You can view most of the gallery on Wiki Commons http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Sergei_Mikhailovich_Prokudin-Gorskii Look closely and you'll see in some photos the color difference. Trust us... It's real--Energman 18:05, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
    • The photo was taken by one camera, not three. Prokudin-Gorskii developed a camera that shot the red, green, and blue images in quick succession -- it's not like he manually changed the filters himself before each exposure. You are right, however, that if there was any movement in between each exposure, you'd have some weird effect, and you can see that in the water om Image:Prokudin-Gorskii-07.jpg (people can hold still, but the water is constantly moving). howcheng {chat} 18:10, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Um, yes way

I'm sorry, but I really have to laugh at some of the comments here. Try to understand that, though these photos may be new to you, they're actually world famous, and there is no chance they are faked anymore than there's a chance the Mona Lisa is a fake. If you're skeptical, have a look, e.g., at this image. This is a slightly better illustration than howcheng's example above. In the middle left of the picture, two men are strolling along the railing. Note that they show up as a series of blue, red, and green "ghosts". This is an artifact of the Prokudin-Gorskii color technique, one that would not crop up in a modern color photo.--129.46.237.24 20:30, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

No need for sarcasm. This image perfectly shows the effects I mentioned before. Nonetheless, the picture of the fat bearded dude is remakable. Prokudin must've injected him with some sort of sedative for him to remain so still. Color overlaps are un-noticeable.--Cuyaya 13:38, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
Prokudin-Gorskii is a GENIUS!!! wow....i had no idea this could be accomplished!-- Hrödberäht 02:52, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

The image cited above as an example of the Prokudin-Gorskii technique verifies that the photo in question is indeed a forgery, in my view. I say this on the grounds that it is impossible for a person to remain absolutely still. Whereas the example image has the expected "ghosts," Mohammed Alim Khan's picture contains no trace of them. If indeed this is a world famous picture, then it is a world famous forgery as well. I expect that some enterprising investigator will eventually demonstrate this conclusively. Xerxesnine 16:45, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Alright, after looking at the other Prokudin-Gorskii pictures I am a bit more convinced. This particular picture of Khan just happens to have a "cheesy" look about it. Something about its particular sharpness and flamboyant colors makes it coincidentally resemble a modern-day prank. Xerxesnine 17:08, 16 February 2007 (UTC)


Still not conviced. Even a coloured picture wouldn't look this real.

Norum 02:57, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

The Library of Congress used some advanced overlaying to combine the exposures, and not just simple linear shifting that could be done with Photoshop for example. See their page Reconstructing Prokudin-Gorskii's Color Photography in Software. --Para 13:32, 8 May 2007 (UTC)