Talk:Princess Victoria of the United Kingdom

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[edit] Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.


Princess Victoria Alexandra of the United Kingdom → Princess Victoria of the United Kingdom — This princess simply was not known as Princess Victoria Alexandra but as Princess Victoria. Any displaced disambiguation page could moved to "Victoria of the United Kingdom (disambiguation)". —Charles 23:19, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Survey

Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''', then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's naming conventions.
  • Support As nominator. Charles 23:19, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Support per nom † DBD 00:52, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Oppose. The existing name conforms to Wikipedia:Naming conventions (names and titles)#Other royals and is a good disambiguation. This particular Princess Victoria may have been known simply as that in her lifetime, but historically she has no claim to the name ahead of several others. Andrewa 08:00, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
    • Neutral (change of vote). I still don't see the logic, but I think you others know more about it than I do. Andrewa 05:19, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Support adding middle names is not an appropriate way to disambiguate; it changes scholarship by altering how people in the future will refer to this person. If disambiguation is necessary, then other means should be used. Noel S McFerran 13:13, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Support Looking at the dab, none of the other claimants to Princess Victoria of the United Kingdom, from Princess Victoria, Duchess of Kent to Princess Victoria of Edinburgh, would actually be called Princess Victoria of the United Kingdom by our conventions. This may change; if so, we can come back to this. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 16:53, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Discussion

Any additional comments:
  • Comment: I have altered the disambiguation page currently at Princess Victoria of the United Kingdom, to include all Princesses of the United Kingdom with the name Victoria. That page need only be moved to Princess Victoria of the United Kingdom (disambiguation) before this move is performed. Also, from this disambig task, I've concluded that this The Princess Victoria is the only one who should appear at Princess Victoria of the United Kingdom, thus that page should not be a disambig itself. † DBD 14:11, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment: I would have thought Queen Victoria was once called Princess Victoria, and the addition of 'Alexandra' to the name of this Princess Victoria serves as a disambiguation between her and her grandmother. – Axman (☏) 15:10, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
    • However, no matter what QV was known as contemporarily, she is now known as Queen Victoria... † DBD 19:00, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

This article has been renamed from Princess Victoria Alexandra of the United Kingdom to Princess Victoria of the United Kingdom as the result of a move request. --Stemonitis 15:48, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] the lozenge is wrong

On the ascent of her father Edward VII to the throne in 1901 Princess Victoria of Wales became daughter of the Monarch and her title changes to "The Princesss Victoria" and her differencing would have reduced to only three points. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.7.65.187 (talk) 18:26, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

That's the general rule, but I remember reading something that said it didn't happen with Queen Victoria's grandchildren. -- I. Pankonin (t·c) 00:09, 17 February 2008 (UTC)