Talk:Princess Ariane of the Netherlands

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What is "undercooling"? (The page says: "Unlike her older sisters, she was presented to the press several hours after her birth, to prevent undercooling".) ~Aranel Alasse~ 21:24, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

It has been noted that undercooling can be recognized in the case of highly premature or full-term newborn babies from an intense cooling of the periphery, while the core of the body is still in the normal range. This is based on the body's attempt to maintain the core temperature by throttling the blood flow to the periphery, thus reducing the heat loss to the environment at the periphery. An increasing fever can be recognized from a decrease in the peripheral temperature with rising core temperature of the body. The body has centralized the blood flow to the core in this case in order to heat to a higher temperature, and it throttles the blood flow to the periphery in order to save heat and to use it to heat the central organs. A subsiding fever can be recognized from the high core temperature of the body with a simultaneously high peripheral temperature.

This was from a post at theroyalforums.com: Princess Alexia was shown to the media in two hours after her birth. When she was returned to the warden, the medical team discovered the youngborn Princess was undercooled. This time the Princess and the Prince decided to wait for 8 hours at least before showing the royal infant to the world. They want to avoid any risk.

Hope that helps a little. Morhange 01:20, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

A nice example of false friends. The Dutch word onderkoeling (literally "undercooling") means hypothermia. :-) Mtcv 11:47, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for the explanation about undercooling, Morhange. I'm super new to the whole editing-Wikipedia thing, so could you perhaps add a precise reference link in this article for those bits of information about the undercooling? And, to further avoid confusion, perhaps you could rephrase the sentence from:

"Unlike her older sisters, she was presented to the press several hours after her birth, to prevent undercooling."

to:

"Unlike her older sisters, she was not presented to the press until several hours after her birth, in order to prevent undercooling."

Not knowing what undercooling was, I assumed that the "presenting to the press" was what prevented the undercooling. But really, it was the not presenting to the press right away that prevented the undercooling.

(Like I said, I'm new to this, so I don't really want to make the edit myself.... Plus, I don't know the official source for the info, either, whereas you do.) --~Aranel Alasse~ 22:24, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Rewording is done. Nyttend 02:27, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Name

My mistake, I was watching the live feed and thought they said AriELLE, but I believe the baby is named Arianne. I'll move it in a sec. Morhange 08:08, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

According to the NOS, her name is Ariane Wilhelmina Máxima Inez: http://www.nos.nl/nos/artikelen/2007/04/art000001C77DA0B8E70BCA.html 83.247.49.154 08:14, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
Yep, just saw that. I think I have to request a move, since I had it at Ariane earlier. Morhange 08:15, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Great, we're now the only country in the world with a princess named after a rocket... AecisBrievenbus 08:49, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

rotfllmao !!!! good point... anyone know if she happens to be "ariane the 5th" ? P.S. i db-g6'ed the misspellings of the articlename after verifying that nothing links to it anymore. --TheDJ (talkcontribsWikiProject Television) 08:57, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
She's Ariane 1, which exploded after take-off... AecisBrievenbus 09:01, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Weather72787

her time of birth is 21:57 NOT!!!! 21:56. Weather72787 9:57 10 June 2007 (UTC) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 141.157.192.7 (talkcontribs) 14:06, 10 June 2007 (UTC)}

Given some of your other edits, it's difficult to take you seriously. Please see Wikipedia policy on verifiability. Unless you provide a reliable source to confirm this, your comments will do nothing to ensure your changes won't get reverted. Dancter 23:06, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Names

I thought Arianes third name Maxima was not from her mother but from her great grandmother on mothers side. It has been told that princess Maxima is also named after this lady. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.159.200.167 (talkcontribs)

Yes, the dutch article says this as well, and from memory that is what i remember as well. It was initially believed by most to reference the childs mother, but I remember several people on the news correcting that statement later. The problem is that it is very hard to find a reliable source atm that says so. --TheDJ (talkcontribs) 11:20, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

But, you cannot get away from the fact that Maxima is after Princess Maxima and her grandmother —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.105.129.96 (talk) 03:13, 15 May 2008 (UTC)