Talk:Prince Leka of Albania

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More information about this article... The following comments have been left for this page: I have assessed this article as stub class. There isn't much to say about Prince Leka at this point, because he's still young; therefore, the information here would in my opinion be sufficient for an upgrade to Start class if it was more fluently written and better organised under subheadings. It would be even better if a picture could be added, and perhaps if an infobox like the one on Crown Prince Leka's page could be added, too. It is particularly important that references be found for some of this information. The Vanity Fair article mentioned might be a starting point. -- TinaSparkle 11:16, 27 October 2006 (UTC) (edit)

The information I have added concerning his birth and the medal collected for his Grandmother is accurate and should be included. (Couter-revolutionary 17:59, 15 May 2006 (UTC))

This is getting ridiculous.

• Prince Leka cannot be called crown prince because that is the title of his father. He will only crown prince if Albania becomes a monarch and his father ascends to the throne.
• Under the maiden name rule, the late Queen Susan reverts to her maiden name or maiden title, namely Susan Cullen-Ward (just as the late British queen mother reverted to Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon, and the late Queen Marie-José of Italy reverted to Marie-José of Belgium.)
• Styles like His Royal Highness cannot be used on WP under the Manual of Style and are deleted on sight.

The POVing of the Albanian articles has gone beyond a joke at this stage. This article is required to follow the exact same rules and regulations as other royal articles. If the POVing of this article continues it will end up sprotected like other Albanian royal articles. FearÉIREANN\^(caint) 18:25, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

It was not me and I do not agree with what has been done with this article! (Couter-revolutionary 19:00, 15 May 2006 (UTC))

I know it was not you, c-r. I should have made that clear. Sorry. For some reason of late, defunct monarchy pages are being targeted like this for unsourced additions, inaccurate use of terminology, additions contrary to the Manual of Style and the Naming conventions. BTW I've changed the succession box to be the list of succession to the throne. Do you know who is behind Leka? If so, please fill it in. FearÉIREANN\^(caint) 19:06, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Photo

Is the photo in the article actually of Prince Leka?

I haven't seen Prince Leka in person for a few years now. The photograph is certainly not unlike how I remember him, although he does, perhaps, have a bigger build, which, one would expect on passing out of Sandhurst.--Couter-revolutionary 17:32, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

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Please find a better picture of the Prince. That one is not the right picture to be shown in his main biography description. Bardhylius 00:22, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

This is not a photo of Princ Leka I just saw him on TV 10 min. ago Miloti

I met him. He looked really quite a lot like that. He was also a very nice chap. -Sara —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.17.251.163 (talk) 08:53, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

The current photo is of Prince Leka, however there have being some imposters, who have changed the photo. from a friend of the Monachy —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.20.84.22 (talk) 23:28, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Heir

I am not sure that Skender Zogu is the heir of Prince Leka? There are descendants of KIng Zog's sisters around, and at one time Prince Tati was hier. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.9.68.221 (talk) 11:22, 9 January 2007 (UTC).

The sisters of Zog, whose descendants are still alive yes, are not the heirs. Skender Zogu is the son of King Zog's elder brother, I think Skender should really be Prince Skender, but he does not use this himself. Prince Tati, the Prince of Kosova, had no children, but, yes, he was Zog's heir presumptive prior to the birth of the Crown Prince.--Couter-revolutionary 13:14, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

To say "I think Skender should really be Prince Skender" and then say "He does not use this himself" as hardly a good case that he is Heir Presumptive is it!? What evidence do you have? Logically as Prince Tati was heir presumptive before Prince Leka was born (and not Skender), Tati was presumably heir of Prince Leka until he died, in which case the heir of Prince Leka will be another son of one of King Zog's sisters? I know that logic does not always apply but unless there is real evidence that Skender has been declared Leka II's son hier, supplanting all descendants of King Zog's sisters I will remove it from the page. If there is evidence fair enough.

The point about Skender being a Prince is really academic, with no bearing on his being heir. I think that as the son of a Prince this is his right to use it, the fact that he does not, so far as I know, has no influence upon his right to succeed as head of the House of Zog. So far as I am aware Tati's place as heir before the brith of Leka I was somewhat of an anomoly. He was chosen, because of his qualities, personally by Zog. Prince Tati (b.1923) was also ten years older than Skender, which may have played its part. Many of Zog's sisters' descendants are females and I think this would decrease their claim. Skender has a higher position as the son of a male, Prince Xhemal. I shall write to Skender to confirm this issue, I do hope this clarifies my point.--Couter-revolutionary 13:11, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Many of Zog's sisters' descendants are females is true - probably half of them are, but I am not aware that Albanian royal family has Salic Law debarring female inheritance. My guess is that Prince Leka has no official heir as such, assuming one day he will marry and have children, but if there were to be anyone I would guess it is Hyssein Doshishti, being the most senior and male nephew of King Zog. However I do not presume to put that on the website. Zog declared his half-brother a Prince but I never heard of that title going to his children. I would have thought a full-nephew would take precedence over a half-nephew? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.9.68.221 (talk) 01:36, 11 January 2007 (UTC).

You are quite correct; I do not think there is a designated heir either, at the moment. The Almanach de Gotha does not allude to one. I did seek to make this presumption and came up with Skender; mainly on the assumption that his current close relationship with the King perhaps alluded to it. I shall not seek to include him as heir any longer, you are correct, it is not a fact, so far as we know. I shall, however, attempt to find out more.--Couter-revolutionary 11:46, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] photo

[edit] Copyright violation: Career with the Albanian Foreign Ministry

The section on his career with the Albanian foreign ministry was lifted directly from here and is also almost incomprehensible. Reggie Perrin (talk) 22:09, 8 June 2008 (UTC)