Talk:Prince Laurent of Belgium

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This page currently crashes my browser, which seems so far to be more a problem of my browser than the page; but really, I'm mostly just creating this talk page so I can add it to my Watchlist without viewing it. -- John Owens 01:03 Apr 9, 2003 (UTC)

Hm, it didn't crash my Mozilla 1.2.1. There were a lot of spaces at the beginning of each paragraph, but otherwise nothing that set the article apart from others. I've taken the spaces out - does it work now? --Camembert
Works fine for me now, thanks. Probably has something to do with using <pre> within <div>, or in some way that it chokes on. -- John Owens 01:12 Apr 9, 2003 (UTC)

MyRedDice, moving "Laurent, Prince of Belgium" to "Laurent Marie" comments: "change name - people get first names and surnames, unless there's ambiguity or we don't know..."

  • Articles should be named according to Wikipedia naming conventions
  • For people known by their titles, this means their article name will include their title
  • "Marie" is not this man's surname. -- Someone else 20:18 Apr 9, 2003 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Naming conventions (common names) doesn't talk about titles specifically.
He was christened Laurent Benoit Baudouin Marie ? Did he change his name on marriage?
No, one is not christened with a surname, one is christened with Christian names! -- Someone else 20:43 Apr 9, 2003 (UTC)
I'll mention it on the naming conventions page. I'm not fussed - I'll probably move it back soon. Martin
You may want to have a look at Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(names_and_titles) -- Someone else 20:43 Apr 9, 2003 (UTC)
You've moved it back already! Splendid. :) btw, I found Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (monarchs), but I couldn't figure out what was concluded, and whether it applied to monarchs where we know the surnames, like Elizabeth Windsor or Elizabeth Tudor (yes, I know those aren't there...) Frankly I prefer Elizabeth Windsor to messing around with Elizabeth I, Elizabeth I of England, Elizabeth I (England) or whatever - it just seems simpler! Martin
Elizabeth Windsor is not an option. The only way to deal with monarchs who are known exclusively by title and who often never had a surname is to use title. Queen Victoria's name for example, was Victoria Wettin. Her Royal House was Saxe-Coburg-Gotha. She is known universally as Queen Victoria and nothing else. The same is true of any monarch. STÓD/ÉÍRE 21:05 Apr 9, 2003 (UTC)
Except for many monarchs there is no agreement as to what that surname might be, and general agreement on what country they ruled. -- Someone else 20:43 Apr 9, 2003 (UTC)

It was agreed ages ago after a long discussion that the form {prince/ess} {name} of {state/title} should be used by prince/esses other than heirs to the throne. STÓD/ÉÍRE 21:07 Apr 9, 2003 (UTC)