Talk:Prince Dimitri of Yugoslavia (b. 1958)

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Complete NONSENS! Dimitri Karadjordjevic is not son of HRH Alexander Karadjordjevic --Ninam 04:11, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

The above statement "Nonsens" was untrue (obviously uttered in haste) and has been apologized by Ninam, see User talk:Ninam. 217.140.193.123 11:01, 23 July 2005 (UTC)

In this revision of main text, it could stay and it is correct, in spite of content of discussion page. --Ninam 01:58, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

Contents 1 descent from ancient Serbian kings 2 saved some text here 3 VFD debate link 4 Something wrong

[edit] descent from ancient Serbian kings

He has also some other ancestry from medieval Balkan kings. Through his own family Karageorgevich, he apparently has no such royal descent, but he has that through the royal houses of Europe, which his mother and paternal grandmother belonged to. This means that almost all royals of Europe have similar Serbian ancestry...

What is at least known of Dimitri's medieval Serbian lineage:

1. Zupan Zavida, in Serbia 2. Stepan Nemanja of Serbia 3. Stepan Provencani of Serbia 4. Stepan Uros I of Serbia 5. Stepan Dragutin of Serbia 6. Jelisaveta of Serbia, m Stepan Kotromanic of Bosnia 7. Vladislav Kotromanic of Bosnia 8. Jekaterina of Bosnia, m Erman of Celje (Slovenia) 9. Erman II of Celje in Slovenia 10. Barbara of Celje, m Sigismund of Bohemia 11. Elisabeth of Bohemia, m Albert of Austria 12. Elisabeth of Austria, m Casimir IV of Poland and Lithuania-Belarusia 13. Anna of Poland, m Bogislav X of Pomerania 14. Sophia of Pomerania, m Frederick I of Denmark 15. Adolphus of Denmark, Duke of Holsatia 16. Sophia of Holsatia, m Duke John of Mecklenburg 17. Adolphus Frederick of Mecklenburg from the dynasty of Slavonic Obotritians 18. Adolphus Frederick II of Mecklenburg 19. Charles of Mecklenburg 20. Charles II of Mecklenburg 21. Louise of Mecklenburg 22. Alexandra Fedorovna of Prussia m Nicholas I Pavlovich of Russia 23. Constantin Nicolaievich of Russia 24. Olga Constantinovna of Russia, m George I of Greece 25. Nicholas of Greece 26. Olga of Greece, m Paul of Yugoslavia 27. Alexander of Yugoslavia 28. Dimitri of Yugoslavia

1. Zupan Zavida, in Serbia 2. Stepan Nemanja of Serbia 3. Stepan Provencani of Serbia 4. Stepan Uros I of Serbia 5. Stepan Dragutin of Serbia 6. Jelisaveta of Serbia, m Stepan Kotromanic of Bosnia 7. Vladislav Kotromanic of Bosnia 8. Jekaterina of Bosnia, m Erman of Celje (Slovenia) 9. Erman II of Celje in Slovenia 10. Barbara of Celje, m Sigismund of Bohemia 11. Elisabeth of Bohemia, m Albert of Austria 12. Elisabeth of Austria, m Casimir IV of Poland and Lithuania-Belarusia 13. Sophia of Poland m Fryderyk of Brandenburg 14. Sophia of Ansbach m Fryderyk of Silesia (Legnica) 15. Jerzy Duke of Silesia (Legnica) 16. Joachim Fryderyk Duke of Silesia (Legnica) 17. John, Duke of Silesia (Legnica) 18. Jerzy, duke of Silesia (Brzeg) 19. Dorotea Jelisaveta of Silesia, m Henry of Nassau 20. Charlotte Amalia of Nassau m William Henry of Nassau 21. Charles of Nassau 22. Charles of Nassau 23. Caroline of Nassau 24. William of Hessia 25. Louise of Hessia 26. Georgios I of Greece 27. Nicholas of Greece 28. Olga of Greece, m Paul of Yugoslavia 29. Alexander of Yugoslavia 30. Dimitri of Yugoslavia

or: 12. Anna of Austria, m William of Thuringia 13. Malgorzata of Thuringia m John Cicero of Brandenburg 14. Joachim Nestor of Brandenburg 15. Margaret (Malgorzata) of Brandenburg m John of Zerbst (Ascania) 16. Joachim of Zerbst (Ascania) 17. Anna Maria of Ascania, m Joachim Fryderyk Duke of Silesia (Legnica) 18. John, Duke of Silesia (Legnica) - same as nr 17 in list above 19. Jerzy, duke of Silesia (Brzeg) 20. Dorotea Jelisaveta of Silesia, m Henry of Nassau 21. Charlotte Amalia of Nassau m William Henry of Nassau 22. Charles of Nassau 23. Charles of Nassau 24. Caroline of Nassau 25. William of Hessia 26. Louise of Hessia 27. Georgios I of Greece 28. Nicholas of Greece 29. Olga of Greece, m Paul of Yugoslavia 30. Alexander of Yugoslavia 31. Dimitri of Yugoslavia

Many other parallel lineages exist too. 217.140.193.123 15:02, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

• Sounds exactly just the thing people like Alexis Brimeyer (with supposed multiple ancestries) or Eugenio Lascorz would claim. Dubious at best. - Skysmith 08:39, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

Actually, this guy's ancestry is factual and verifiable. Skysmith is very welcome to check them from genealogical sources, beginning from "Europäische Stammtafeln". "Sound" is not always the thing on basis of which to decide.
What if I would say that "It sounds like Skysmith suffers from mental health problems". Although things may "sound" such, I will not make any decisions based on such sound. 217.140.193.123 09:33, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] saved some text here

For some reason, a user wanted to erase following pieces of information from the article. I am not happy with such erasure. 217.140.193.123 09:41, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

"Through his mother, Prince Dimitri descends from the Italian noble family of Dukes of San Pietro di Galatina, who were heirs of George Castriota the Scanderbeg, the national hero of Albania and the Sovereign Lord of that country, in rebellion against the Turkish rule.

Through the same Castriota family, Dimitri is descendant of Serbian medieval Brankovic princes of Raska, Syrmia and Kosovo; of Stepan Lazar Hrebeljanovic, a medieval ruler of Serbia; of Stepan Uros III Decanski, a Nemanjic king of Serbia and several other Nemanjic kings; of Dragas, medieval Serbian prince and ruler of East Macedonia in Serres; of Matthaios Asanes Kantakuzenos, a co-emperor of Constantinople; as well as of Thomas Palaiologos, son and brother of the last Byzantine Emperors."

[edit] VFD debate link

This article has been kept following this VFD debate. Sjakkalle (Check!) 09:55, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Something wrong

There are two Prince Dimitris. The text is over the one Dimitri. The part line of succession to British Throne and the links that lead to this article mean the other Dimitri. This could be the reason for all the debates mentioned above. Someone should fix this. I can do, if you let me. --Intimidator03 17:58, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

some of that info is not correct

Dimitri, born 1958 has a twin brother (Michel) who is considered older than him