Talk:Primordial dwarfism
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Thank you to whoever published this article. When I noticed nobody had written anything on Primordial Dwarfism, I was planning on doing it myself - although I always hesitated because I did not have time to do extensive research. So thank you to whoever created this, it is much appreciated by many. - Anonymous
About Primordial dwarfs~ America-land of opportunity. And with many opportunities comes many different people. Indroducing the PRIMORDIAL DWARF. They are the smallest people in the WORLD. There are only 125 known cases of primordial dwarfism in the US and Canada. Th1'8 {20 inches}. She died at a young age of 26. Anyway, primordial dwarfs aren't expected to live past 30 years of age, but Sharon from Illinois is now 47 years old. She weighs 39 pounds and is about 3'7 tall. She never attended school b/c people were afraid she would slide off the school bus seats. {which is a stupid reason not to go to school}. Now, young primordial dwarfs have aids to help them through elementary, middle, and high school. Primordial dwarfs also arent expected to weigh more than 45 pounds. The smallest primordial dwarf today is Bridgette Jourdan who is 2'4 {28 inches} and 18 pounds; she is 17 years old. she also has a primordial dwarf brother named Bradley. He is a lot taller than Bri. They both attend the high school cheerleading team where they are the flyers and Brad is the Star tumbeler. HE IS EXCELLENT!! Bri is in 10th grade and Brad is in 9th. Visit there website at LittleJourdanPrimordialWorld.com. You can find out more about primordial dwarfs at www.primordialdwarfism.com. GOOD LUCK PRIMORDIAL DWARFS!!!! :^ P ~SMZ Apr.6,08 11:19pm
MOPD II Primordial Dwarf- Hannah
[[Hannah Kritzeck]] Hannah is a very gifted 12-year old MOPD II primordial dwarf. She will be 13 on May 15, 2008. She is in the 5th grade {or 6th; Unsure}. She appeared on Maury, The Tyra Banks Show, Health's The Smallest People in the World, and many other shows. She has been in numerous amounts of plays, movies, and television shows. She enjoys singing, acting, dancing, and cheerleading for her schools team, White Bear Lake. She weighs only 25 pounds and wears a size 4T and child size shoes which are 4T and she is also 3 feet tall. Every year she and her mother, Jackie, attend the Ronald MacDonald house for primordial dwarfs and other types of dwarfs{there are 200}. Hannah's favorite actress/singer is Hannah Montana/Miley Cyrus {ironic}. She wants to be like her. Hannah is a very cute and bright child and I hope she makes the best out of her life, even though it will be hard. You can visit her website and many other primordial dwarf's websites at HannahKritzeck.com/home and www.primordialdwarfism.com. GOOD LUCK HANNAH!!!! :P ~SMZ Apr.6,08 10:58pm
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[edit] Diagnosis
I think this last sentence in the first paragraph is misleading --> "Most individuals with primordial dwarfism are recognized by medical professionals while they are still in the womb." I believe that is common to recognize a problem with the size of the fetus/baby in the womb, however a diagnosis of PD normally does not happen until the child is several years of age (if I understand correctly). --Diablorex 12:56, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
Agree. My son is an MOPDII, and while it is 'possible' to identify them in the womb, it only happens in cases where previous siblings have been diagnosed (i.e. with Bridget and Bradley Jourdan, where doctors were aware there could be complications in the prgenancy.). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.73.199.69 (talk) 15:53, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] History
Kenadie is reported to weigh 10 lbs in an ABC article (sorry, can't find it), so the statement that she will "never weigh more than 8 lbs" should be corrected. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.134.114.107 (talk) 03:32, August 21, 2007 (UTC)
I've deleted "She will never be any taller than 30 inches, or weigh any more than 9 lb." If someone wants to put it in the article that "so and so says that ...", I won't object, but it's not verifiable facts; it's someone's opinion.--Prosfilaes 15:43, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Life Expectancy
How long does a sufferer typically live?
They live up to 30, or more if they stay healthy. ~SMZ Apr.6,08 11:23pm
Yes they can suffer aneurysms because they suffer from microcephalia, a condition that results in a smaller brain and vascular tissues. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.128.40.117 (talk) 17:35, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
- Life expectancy in these children is affected by a great number things, with aneurysms being one of the more serious. There has also been an acknowledged increase in deaths due to viral infection. Dr. Scott at the DuPont Chuldrens hospital once hypothesized that this is due to the low volume of blood in the children, resulting in the virus being able to duplicate faster than the body can create white blood cells/antibodies to fight the virus. I believe that Dr. Scott mentioned 2 or 3 of his patients died from such viral infections. Also, there are many other medical complications, such as high rate of scoliosis, problems with digestion and respiration problems that can lead to early death. It has even been speculated that the syndrome may share some 'early aging' characteristics with Progeria and other syndromes. Finally, the numbers for the life expectancy of Primaordial Dwarves is expected to chnage somewhat in the near future, as the children who have recieved improved medical care move into their 30's and perhaps beyond. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.73.199.69 (talk) 16:15, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Help with Potential Minor Edit
The last sentence in the last paragraph under the Types section in the article about Primordial dwarfism either has a missing word or the first “of” is not supposed to be there. It currently reads “Many affected individuals are generally referred to as having of primordial dwarfism because specific diagnosis within the category of primordial dwarfism is difficult.” If a word is missing, it appears it would be one that would be significant, for instance: Many affected individuals are generally referred to as having symptoms of primordial dwarfism because specific diagnosis within the category of primordial dwarfism is difficult. Or Many affected individuals are generally referred to as having the syndrome of primordial dwarfism because specific diagnosis within the category of primordial dwarfism is difficult. It would be helpful if the original author could take a look at it, but I haven’t figured out how to see who that is yet. Thanks. Jstiteler 21:28, 10 January 2007 (
Now that the potential coppyright violations are removed, so is the above referenced need for edits. Thanks.
[edit] Copyright violation
Certain sentences in this article match verbatim the article at http://www.primordialdwarfism.com/medmain.htm. Further an [early version of this article] is clearly matches that article. Thanks/wangi 21:26, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
- I've removed what I think is all the copyvios. --J2thawiki 12:53, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
Great. Now there's 1/10 the information.
[edit] Types
Which of the SIX types listed is not supposed to be there ? Woodsstock 17:16, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
There are now NO types listed. Is this intentional? --87.81.240.46 22:05, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
I just expanded the first reference to MOPD II to read "Majewski osteodysplastic primordial dwarfism (MOPD) type II". It's also known as "Microcephalic osteodysplastic primordial dwarfism type II", but a quick search on pubMed showed more references to Majewski in recent years. In the intro section it is referenced as a single subtype (which as far as I can tell is accurate), but later in the article I found the text
In the late 1990s and early 2000, appearances on the Maury Povich show by two children, Daniel White and Hannah Kritzeck, brought more attention to the syndrome which became know as MOPD II.
There are two problems with this:
- MOPD II is not synonymous with primordial dwarfism, as it references a particular subtype.
- MOPD II did not get its name as a result of the Maury Povich show and the attention it created, as is implied here. It was first described by Majewski et al in a 1982 paper entitled "Studies of microcephalic primordial dwarfism II: the osteodysplastic type II of primordial dwarfism." in the American Journal of Medicine. (PubMed ID : 7201238)
Unfortunately, I don't know whether Maury Povich really had only people with MOPD II on the show or whether he had people with multiple subtypes and the author applied MOPD II to them and the attention which followed out of confusion. Since there is no source citation, and no proper discussion of the subtypes anywhere in the article, I don't know how to properly correct this at the moment, but someone who knows more should eventually address this.
Stefanwulf (talk) 20:20, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Contradiction
Opening paragraph says PD is usually diagnosed in the womb. Later in the article it states in most cases PD is not diagnosed until the child is sometimes as old as five. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.10.220.48 (talk) 19:49, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
Article didn't make sense. Changed "misdiagnosis is rare, to misdiagnosis is common, which is what is impled by the rest of the paragraph.--199.67.203.142 13:36, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
