Talk:Pride of Baltimore

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This article was recently listed on Votes for Deletion. However, I have reason to believe that this was not a serious listing but a form of trolling by User:Erwin Walsh - see that page for much similar activity undertaken by this recently-created account. I have therefore removed the VfD notice; while this breaches the letter of the VfD policy, I don't think it breaches the spirit of Wikipedia.

This should not be seen as a challenge to any legitimate VfD nomination. PeteVerdon 20:24, 13 August 2005 (UTC)

I agree that this page does not deserve deletion, and when I'm finished typing this I will be voting against that very proposition. However, it's not appropriate to simply remove the vfd tag --- even if you really believe the nominator is wrong --- this is something primarily attempted by vandals. If you don't think something should be deleted, say so; removing the tag undermines your case. (All IMHO, o' course; I'm a newbie myself, so if you want to ignore me, go right ahead.) --fuddlemark 21:19, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

It's not that I believe the nominator is wrong, but that he is malicious. If he was simply wrong, well that's only my opinion, we go through the VfD process and see what everyone else thinks, and if he's indeed wrong then the article is kept. In that case, removing the notice is indeed entirely the wrong thing to do. However, this is a different situation - being malicious (as he's nominated many articles, often minutes after being created and while still being edited), the nominator has made the nomination purely to cause extra work, not to initiate a discussion, and hence there is no "case" to argue either way. Removing the notice is more like a speedy deletion for vandalism, in which the full process is likewise ignored when there's clearly no call for it.

However, I will leave the tag up for now. PeteVerdon 21:49, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

I don't see any reason to delete this. Grunherz 18 August 2005

[edit] Analysis of sinking

There have been several analyses of the Pride of Baltimore. One reference is:
Sailing Vessel Stability-with Particular Reference to the Pride of Baltimore Casualty Chatterton, Howard A. Maxham, John C. ; Marine Technology, Vol. 26, No. 2 4/1/1989--Billymac00 (talk) 04:19, 3 March 2008 (UTC)