Talk:Pride goes before a fall

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[edit] In popular culture?

This is a well-known saying in regular use, with a known origin, and we think that "The seventh episode of the TV series Hercules: The Legendary Journeys is entitled "Pride Comes Before A Brawl."" and "The Departed - A priest mentions to Costello "May I remind you that pride comes before the fall" after a short confrontation" are worthy of mention? Popular ultimately comes from a meaning of "of the people". In what sense are Hercules: The Legendary Journeys and The Departed more popular than a proverb in common (ie, popular) use? Telsa (talk) 23:01, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Telsa, I think the "pop culture" section may have been useful to illustrate the popularity of the phrase as a cultural touchstone; that it is used or referenced by a variety of people in a variey of circumstances. I would agree that it wasn't put forward in a particularly thoughtful or elegant fashion, but I didn't object to it, either. Spottacus 00:19, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rephrase

I always thought the saying was "pride goeth before the fall." I've heard this version many times before and am wondering if it should be included as a variant even though the only difference is goes vs. goeth and a vs. the —Preceding unsigned comment added by Itsmeiam (talk • contribs) 09:44, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Language versions

As we can see it in a idiom dictionary (eg. Cambridge) there are two versions of this idiom. "pride comes before a fall" is labelled as British and Australian while "pride goes before a fall" is American. The difference isn't so big, but we should consider them both and show how they exist. Krzysztofpawliszak —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.188.71.171 (talk) 12:11, 31 May 2008 (UTC)