Talk:Presidential Scholars Program

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Which would explain why it's so poorly written :) Cheezmeister 22:37, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] False Statments

The Presidential Scholars Program was established in 1964, by executive order of the President of the United States to recognize and honor some of the most distinguished graduating high school seniors in the United States.

The above statement is not correct. The Presidential Scholars Program does not honor the most distinguished high school seniors in the US. It rather honors the most distinguished US citizen high school seniors.

So this means the following:

The students honored with this award are not the most distinguished in the US. There might be people who are way more distinguished than they are, but are not US citizens.

The United States continues to fail in its quest to promote academic excellence, seeing as to how they only honor US Citizens, and none else.

What if the student has a green card, but not a US Citizenship? I think that's some form of discrimination, by the way.

Scorpion4eva 04:59, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing that out, and changing the wording. Personally, I wasn't aware that it was only for US citizens... Do you have a reference or reliable source for this? If not, the change might have to be reverted.
Regards,xC | 09:42, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

I would say the above statement is correct. "to recognize and honor some of the most distinguished graduating high school seniors in the United States." The use of the word "some" makes it so. Further, cf. the description of the Department of Education itself: "The United States Presidential Scholars Program was established in 1964, by Executive Order of the President, to recognize and honor some of our Nation's most distinguished graduating high school seniors." I think this is entirely accurate in referring to "our Nation's... high school seniors." The possessive "our" must refer to Americans only. A graduating high school senior of some other nationality would necessarily be possessed by whatever country in which his or her citizenship lies.

Maybe the Department of Education's wording is better? Rather than "students in the United States" the meaning becomes "students 'belonging to' the United States."

Simply using the word "American" (which as "generally understood" refers to a citizen or national of the U.S., not a mere resident: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_%28word%29) in a way that is a clear reference to the student rather than the high school could also solve the problem. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.67.53.154 (talk) 22:41, 14 September 2007 (UTC)