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Contents 1 Yautja 2 Conviently 3 The Pistol 4 Always capatilize Predator? 5 Beowulf Reference 6 The Xenomorph Skull 7 Fair use rationale for Image:Trophycase.jpg 8 WikiProject Alien

[edit] Yautja

Seeing as the canon of Yautja is disputed, and the term does not appear in this movie, I suggest not using it to refer to the Predator(s) in this article. -- Jon Dowland 00:27, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Conviently

I just removed this edit.

"Conveniently for the actor, Schwarzenegger became busy with Terminator 2: Judgment Day, which allowed the character to be remade into Special Agent Keyes, played by Gary Busey."

What's so convenient about it? That Schwarzenegger now had a good reason to turn the role down? Garion96 (talk) 11:49, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Pretty much. Sounds absurd, but it's actually logical. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.85.234.166 (talk • contribs) .

Do you have a source for that? Otherwise it's just seems to be speculation. Garion96 (talk) 01:17, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Watch the documentary portion of the Predator 2 Special Edition DVD. The creators stated that Arnie was busy with Terminator 2

[edit] The Pistol

Perhaps the wording of the discussion of the pistol should be changed... while technically the explanation of the pistol's history in the comic book is a retcon, the term is more commonly known to imply a change to established backstory. Perhaps it could/should be changed to be a little less out-of-the-blue, or maybe properly explained a little more.--MythicFox 13:52, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

The bit about Roanoke seems like pure speculation. Gonna need a source on that, or something. Mikepwnz 22:53, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Always capatilize Predator?

Should 'Predator' always be capitalized or should the word be treated like the words human, bear, fish, etc? wubb 18:52, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

I think we should. We could take in concederation that they don't have birth-names (that we/i know of) and give them the name "Predator" as a birth name. Leonida November 12th 2006

Yes. Predator is universally capitalized as the name of the species of alien and when refering to the individual creature. Mikepwnz 09:29, 15 December 2006 (UTC) Why can't i edit it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.247.92.105 (talk) 18:49, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Beowulf Reference

The wiki for the first film has a section for the Beowulf parallel but this wiki doesn't, despite the parallel actually being much stronger in Predator 2 (takes place in ciy, monster's arm removed, hunts injured monster to subterranean lair, combats monster with own weapon). Can someone else handle this, or should I dig out the paper I wrote on the subject? Mikepwnz 09:35, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Xenomorph Skull

This article lists two conflicting explanations for the prexence of the xenomorph skull in the Predator ship

From New Facts ABout Predators: "Many people including the writers of Predator 2 believed that Stan Winston indeed put the Alien head in the Predators' skull collection to intentionally connect the two franchises, both owned by 20th Century Fox. However, the first appearance of the mixed franchises, the first comic of Alien vs. Predator, was released by Dark Horse Comics in November 1989, a year before Predator 2 was released."

From Trivia: "When the view is shot inside of the trophy room, you see a skull from the movie ALIEN. This was not supposed to be serious, it was only a joke. However, after reviewing the movie they producers thought of this as a great oppertunity to create a whole new franchise: Alien vs. Predator."

Obviously if the Alien vs. Predator franchise was already started '89 per the first quote then after the "joke" of the second quote Alien vs. Predator would not have been a new franchise. I don't know much about this situation so i will leave the article as is, just thought i'd point out the inconsisteny for someone more familiar with this topic to rectify it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 76.215.211.192 (talk • contribs). 03:12, 9 January 2007

Thanks for noticing. That trivia part was only added a couple of days ago, and has just been removed. To be sure, I will look and see if I can find a source for one or the other. Garion96 (talk) 04:13, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

I always the thought the skull was out of place; Aliens are insects, no? Why do the have a skull, which would require an endoskeleton?

Well, Aliens are *compared* to insects, they are never directly determined to be insects. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.189.155.131 (talk) 13:39, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Trophycase.jpg

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[edit] WikiProject Alien

I have proposed the creation of a WikiProject to improve articles related to the Alien series, including this one. If you are interested in participating please go to Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals#Alien and add your name to the list of interested editors. If enough people are interested in starting this project, then I will move forward with it. --IllaZilla (talk) 23:18, 23 December 2007 (UTC)