Talk:Pre-Greek substrate

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[edit] Merging, referencing, cleanup, renaming?

I'm not quite sure what to do with this page. It currently shares a lot of material with Pelasgian. It could conceivably also be merged into Proto-Greek. It definitely needs referencing (the main hypotheses are ascribed to authors, but the arguments for and against each are entirely unsourced).

For the time being, I'm going to move it from "Greek substrate language" to "Pre-Greek substrate". The old title is a bit misleading as it might suggest to the reader that this language is itself "Greek".

Ah yes, I would agree with you. Proto-Greek is usually reserved for stages of Indo-European preceding the development of Greek from them. Pelasgian may or may not be that.Dave (talk) 04:19, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

For the same reason I'm also changing the categories. Category:Varieties of Greek is only for just that, things that are themselves varieties of Greek.

Fut.Perf. ☼ 08:31, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

I think it makes sense to leave it free-standing despite the overlap. My opinion is that it is better to have more, shorter, cross-referenced articles than fewer larger ones. I went through and cleaned the subtitles, which contained links. -THB 01:19, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Well we don't know until we see what people think. The way both are set-up the material certainly would result in two write-ups on the same material. I put the appropriate templates on and it appears that this is where it is all going to be discussed. I vote for merger - the topics are the same. We can put "main" in the Pelasgians, which badly needs to save some space also. This one still has plenty of space, but those are only accidental advantages. The main problem is as you say overlap. I was about to expand Pelasgians but now that I know this issue is here I feel it must be resolved firstDave (talk) 04:16, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

To me it's pretty clear that this article should be a separate article. I'm removing the merge tags not because of my opinion, but because no one has come with a compelling reason to merge in all this time. Lisa the Sociopath (talk) 23:50, 15 February 2008 (UTC)