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[edit] Welcome!

Hello, Pperos/archive1, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thanks for your contributions; I hope you like it here and decide to stay. We're glad to have you in our community! Here are a few good links for newcomers:

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Happy editing!

-- Sango123 16:03, July 26, 2005 (UTC)

P.S. Feel free to leave a message on my talk page if you need help with anything or simply wish to say hello. :)


[edit] Welcome Aboard

Hey... saw your comment on the Social Work asking if your edits were ok. They looked good to me. Don't be afraid to contribute more in the future. The article needs some work and if you have an interest in it... go for it!! Granite T. Rock 00:28, August 12, 2005 (UTC)


[edit] Harry Potter (character)

Nice edit on Harry Potter (character). Always good to have people talented with consolidating article narrative on board. --AceMyth 13:03, September 1, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks! Much appreciated. Peeper 14:34, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Heeheehee...

Thanks for keeping RC patrol interesting. - A Man In Black (conspire | past ops) 12:16, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

Ta muchly. It can get terribly boring, all those stray commas, extra =s and stream-of-consciousness sentences that people insist on adding. Glad to have raised a smile! Peeper 10:38, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar

Award I award the Working Man's Barnstar to Pperos for tireless work on improving grammar, wordings, and other small but vital elements of various Harry Potter articles.

[edit] Editing

Edits on wiki improve by evolution: only the best survives. They become best by change after change after change. I find I make two kinds of edits. Ones which add content, and ones which improve language. I fancy I am quite good at writing smooth prose, but very often it is not possible to do this immediately. If I have a fact to insert or point to make, the primary thing is to make or insert it. Then someone else can smooth it along, or i may do so myself when I have more time, or after leaving the piece and re-reading it. It can be quite difficult to write good prose in one go, because you do not spot your mistakes. As to our last exchange in Severus Snape, yes I agree, I put in a clumsy statement, but I was trying to express a particular point. You improved the flow, but slightly altered my point. I changed it again, back a little to my original intention, though you also added something. Cheers. 17:42, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I just read your last edit. Actually the sentence you just put in says that Lily defended Harry against Dudley and Draco. OOps. Which is why I repeated use of Snapes name when I wrote it: because it is not clear whether the pronoun refers to the subject of the sentence, Harry, or the male mentioned in the subordinate clause, Snape. Sandpiper 17:48, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

Actually, james seems to have been rather nastier than Sirius, and certainly Lily thought so. Am still thinking about that.Sandpiper No, maybe that is essentially implied already. Complicated game, eh?Sandpiper

Hey Sandpiper, thanks for your comments. I hope you didn't feel I was being critical, just doing exactly the kind of iterative wiki process you set out in your first post here. I totally agree that it's a process and mean no disrespect when editing edits!
As to your comments about this instance, I think you are actually right about the lexical ambiguity of the pronoun referring either to Snape or Harry being defended by Lily. But contextually I think it is pretty clear that it was Snape. Nevertheless your edit - changing 'him' to 'Snape' - sits better when the preceding pronoun is not 'Snape' but 'Severus' -the sense is the same but stylistically it is much more comfortable. We're getting there!
I think there may be a problem with a 'train-wreck' of proper nouns and pronouns at the end of the sentence though - within three lines, there are actually seven individuals mentioned, which makes difficult writing when you want to refer back to any of them - Harry, James, Sirius, Severus, Dudley, Draco and Lily. But what we have done so far seems good. As long as you don't mind the give-and-take, neither do I! Cheers, Peeper 18:05, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
no, this is quite fun. It's boring when we get stuck on simply reverting each other. I didn't change the name on purpose (or not consciously): in fact I totally agree about varying words whenever possible, but I may have a reservation about referring to the same person by a different name. OK for us, but might be confusing for someone not familar with the subject. Sort of thing I might think about if I read it again from the start. Well, this does condense 3 or more pages from the book into two sentences.
Just checked the page to see if you had changed anything and lo! 6 edits by someone anon. Some more exciting theories about what DD and Harry thought. What fun. Sandpiper 18:30, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] An Apology

Pperos, I am sorry that I edited your page earlier in the week. It was wrong of me, and I shouldn't have done it. I will never do it again. I hope you will forgive me.

Edit at a later date - Sorry, forgot to sign it --neoballmon 11:31, 16 November 2005 (UTC)


I have Tourette's by proxy, a disorder made worse by years of institutional abuse; when I saw you were part of the social work apparatus, I couldn't help but vandalise your page.

I know now that you strive to improve social work standards, and am deeply ashamed of myself. Sorry, brother.

[edit] Vandalism of your User page.

hey there... just thought i'd let you know i reverted vandalism of your user page! UkPaolo 12:13, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

why thankyou! :o) UkPaolo 13:02, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Lac de Cavayere

Hi and many thanks for filling out the page on lac de cavayere i had started. Can i ask are you local to carcassonne..is that where you got the info or did you surf the net or other sources? Wondered if you knew if the algae problem they had this summer had cleared up? Collieman

[edit] Makarios III

Hi, I encountered this page you created, Makarios III/proposed entry on User:Bluemoose/Uncategorised good articles. What to do with it? Is it already merged with the Makarios III article? If so, could you speedy delete the article or otherwise move it to your user page. Thanks. Garion96 (talk) 01:01, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WS

Hi, Here is a vote related to Western Sahara. Neutrality of WP is dying, please save it! Daryou 07:50, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] David Tennant

Your edit may well be in line with wikipedia policy (i'm not so well versed in these things) but i wondered if your edit might be a mistake, seeing as the article begins, "David Tennant (born David McDonald, April 18, 1971) is".Amo 13:23, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] UK in the 2006 ESC

Hi Pperos! Thanks for the write-up on the Making Your Mind Up 2006. One thing bothers me - if mobile voting a texting were announced separately, what were the regional scores based on? Fixed-line televoting? If so, I believe the article should mention it, I found ti confusing. Thanks, Image:Icons-mini-action_go.gif Bravada Image:Icons-mini-comment yellow.gif Talk to me! 00:14, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Girl in the Fireplace

Thanks. I've replied on the talk page. --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 22:54, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thaksin Shinawatra

While you were correct to change "Thai PM Shinawatra" to "Thai PM Thaksin", you were incorrect in saying that Thaksin is his surname. Thaksin is his given name, Shinawatra is his family name or surname. Thais, however, always use their given name as the public form of their name. It is as if the British were to say "Prime Minister Tony." Adam 11:41, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Scunthorpe Problem

This is based on a reader's letter in the Daily Mail whose writer had experienced a problem with e-mail filters after referring to Irina Slutskaya. Although I try to avoid including material which could be a hoax or an urban legend, this does sound like the sort of thing that e-mail filters do. Anyone who has used public library computers knows just how fussy and sometimes paranoid the obscenity filters can be, so I am inclined to believe this report.--Ianmacm 11:34, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Master

Hey there. I re wrote your rewrite to clarfy the facts better. There were a few items that you listed as citation needed which were already cited. Also, Derek Jacobi is appearing in Utopia... not The Sound of Drums. Simm is appearing in both The Sound of Drums and Last of the Time Lords. Apparently the description I wrote was not adequate to explain that so I've made it more specific.--Dr who1975 14:38, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Abercrombie & Fitch

By being bold you did well.[1] Cheers, -Will Beback · † · 11:40, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Verbs

Fascinated by your comment on a Doctor Who page that "reference" is not a verb. Do you also refuse to talk about "footing the bill", "heading a task force", "facing a problem", "chairing a meeting", "tabling an amendment", "booking a table" and countless others? Just curious. ;-) Tomsalinsky 20:39, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

I've written a response here, referencing your above comment. Peeper 17:40, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
  • For the record, unlike the above examples, there is a more appropriate usage - I refer, of course, to "refer to." ~NJ
    • What's "more appropriate" about it? Tomsalinsky 21:22, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
      • Wha? Peeper 21:56, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
        • Peeper: The comparison is weak. Your examples are idiomatic expressions, not single words. Sticklers object to these phrases (because they are technically nonsensical). I do not. "Booking a table" is both shorter and less formal than "making a reservation." To me, this constitutes sufficient reason for both phrases to exist. In contrast, "reference" used as a verb means exactly the same thing as "refer to." A better, though still imperfect, comparison would be the inexplicable addition of a useless syllable to "oriented" (orientATed) - again, same meaning. Tom: Consult a dictionary. ~NJ
Er, thanks for your input, but I think we'd put this one to bed. My principal stance was that I made a good faith edit on personal preference, either expression had its justifications, and nobody was going to die over it. The perils of editing Doctor Who articles, eh. (And please do sign your posts with ~~~~). Peeper 09:26, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
In the end, your choice of words is just that - your choice. I just felt you deserved an explanation /reply - I don't like to criticize and run. :) 01:28, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Watford

You were quite right to revert the recent edit to Watford, but you reasoning is not entirely correct. The Bakerloo line did go to Watford, specifically to Watford Junction, until 1982, and services there pre-dated the Met service to Watford by something like 10 years. Emeraude 09:39, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I had a creeping feeling I might be wrong about the Tube, but the main point which I made in the edit summary was that the edit was unencyclopaedic POV with no source and bad style. Do add something about the historic Tube links if it's not already there - you are clearly more of an expert than I! Cheers. Peeper 10:30, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Calling All Social Workers!

You have shown an interest in the Social Work article. If you are a social worker, you may consider adding youself to the Wikipedians with MSW degrees or Wikipedian Social Workers categories. I am trying to get more people in this field, interested in working on the social work related Wikipedia articles. If you have any questions, just post a note on my talk page. Ursasapien 05:47, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

I have been considering whether I should create a new Category/Project page. I am not sure that social work truly falls in the Sociology realm. Even if it remains in that category, I think it should have its own subcategory. I would be curious about your thoughts. I think having a project page would help us decide if we wanted to split the article into country specific articles or if we wanted to continue with the current structure. Ursasapien (talk) 06:01, 13 June 2007 (UTC)


I have created a new WikiProject, WikiProject Social Work. I have begun to work on this project and I would love to have your help. Please take a look at it and consider joining the project. Many thanks, Ursasapien (talk) 05:01, 15 June 2007 (UTC)