Talk:Power Player Super Joy III

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[edit] Proposed for deletion archive

Super Joy 3/3.5 was proposed for deletion. This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made below the archived discussion rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was KEEP

Article about an illegal bootleg version of a video game system. I kinda want one, but it doesn't seem particularly encyclopedic. —tregoweth 19:09, Nov 6, 2004 (UTC)

Keep
  1. weak keep, article needs cleanup, and the list of games should probably be on its own "list of" page... [[User:Lachatdelarue|Lachatdelarue (talk)]] 19:51, 6 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  2. Keep - seems legit for a Wikipedia encyclopedia article. Niceguyjoey 20:53, Nov 6, 2004 (UTC)
  3. That it causes pain for Nintendo is irrelevant in deciding whether to keep the article. I can't see what criteria this fails, so keep. Shane King 00:51, Nov 7, 2004 (UTC)
  4. Keep, the article is encyclopedic and verifiable, the product well known enough to support the article —siroχo 20:39, Nov 7, 2004 (UTC)
  5. Keep - slightly notable. Andre (talk) 23:45, Nov 7, 2004 (UTC)
  6. Strong Keep and I am simply horrified at Georgre's "justification" for deletion. Wow. Thanks for pointing out we're not C/Net or Slashdot, but if we've made it here I think we figured that out by now. [[User:Radman1|RaD Man (talk)]] 09:27, 12 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Is it popular? Is it a best-selling device? (I.e. causing Nintendo pain?) What criterion do we use to say this is a proper subject, if the latest brand of imitation Oreo isn't? Every new product is not automatically notable. It exists, but there are so many billions of things that exist that we have to have more. It has to be a remarkable, successful, notable, useful piece of information. I realize that voters on VfD, like Wikipedians in general, slant toward the gaming population, but would the brand new clone of a mass spectrometer be a proper topic? This article gives us no evidence that its listing here is more than a new product blurb. Geogre 04:34, 7 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Delete
  1. Delete: It is not a leading seller, a major cause of pain for Nintendo, an innovator. It's just a product, and an illegal one at that. We are not C/Net or Fresh Meat or Slashdot. Not an encyclopedic topic at this level of achievement. Geogre 20:59, 6 Nov 2004 (UTC)

End archived discussion -- Graham ☺ | Talk 02:37, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Controller port aspects

Is this product capable of using real Sega Genesis controllers? It uses the same basic port of the Sega Genesis system. This product comes with a genesis-like controller, but I want to know if it uses a real genesis controller. If anybody tests one, and it works, message me about it. --SuperDude 15:59, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

  • No, unfortunately not. I was curious myself and plugged in an original Sega Genesis controller, as well as a Sega Master System Phasor light gun (it does use the same physical DE-9 connector as the included lightgun) and neither are compatible. It is ignored for the most part or cause odd behavior (e.g. pressing the directional pad downwards randomly tiggers one of the A/B buttons). Pressing the fire button the lightgun causes a reset/short of sorts. They're obviously wired differently (I'm sure a rewiring would be possible, if you knew the pinouts). --Apple2gs
  • Many 8bit computers and game consoles used the D-9 connector for joysticks, like Atari 2600. Commodore 64, Amiga. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Petruza (talk • contribs) 14:38, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Function of battery option?

Does anyone know the purpose of the battery pack (holds 4 x AA batteries; 6 volts) that plugs into the underside of the Super Joy III? Logically one would assume it offers an alternate power source, replacing the need for the 9v DC-adapter and making it more portable, but it doesn't power up off batteries. In fact it doesn't seem to do anything at all. There is no mention of the battery option in the article. --Apple2gs 00:59, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] No reseller links!

There's a big section in the article itself talking about how Nintendo of America has lashed out against the sale of this device, and gotten a restraining order against its sale. Given all that, its legal status isn't even "dubious": it's not, technically speaking, legal in the United States at this point. Posting links to external sites which are selling it is, if not immoral (I'm not gonna touch that argument...), not exactly smart, given that it potentially exposes Wikipedia itself to legal action. Granted, IANAL, but I'm pretty sure we want to err on the side of caution in this case.... – Seancdaug 21:31, Apr 18, 2005 (UTC)

  • I think it is extremely unlikely that simply linking to a reseller site would be considered infringement. Firebug 05:15, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • I think you're wrong there. Links to illegal material are called contributory infringement, and there have been quite a number of court cases concerning it. The results are still somewhat ambiguous, granted, and there's no clear consensus as to what the boundaries are, but I think it would be extremely foolhardy to risk potentially expensive litigation against Wikipedia on these grounds. More information here. – Seancdaug 16:07, Apr 19, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Title screen graphics

Most of the games have had their title screen graphics removed to save space on the ROM chip.

I'm not sure this is the true reason. If I recall correctly, every game had its title screen or at the very least its copyright notice stripped. I would think it has something to do with blatantly violating all of those copyrights, but I don't think removing the copyright notices exactly gives them any additional protection :P - furrykef (Talk at me) 05:14, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

It doesn't, but it helps hide the infringement, to some degree. – Seancdaug 16:08, Apr 19, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Similar clone: Game Stick

There's another console, the Game Stick which presumably has the exact 76 same games, or almost, that this one, so I find it interesting to put this fact on both articles and link them together. Since I'm not very good at writing in english, if someone else volunteers for this, it would be great!

Petruza 23:25, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Famicom slot

On some versions the Famicom slot will only work if the onboard ROM is disabled. Ben Heckendorn www.benheck.com used one of these to build a portable NES and detailed on his website how to disable the ROM. If one wished, a toggle switch could be wired in to switch between the slot and onboard games.

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This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 06:24, 10 November 2007 (UTC)