Talk:Posting system

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Good article Posting system has been listed as one of the Everyday life good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can delist it, or ask for a reassessment.

[edit] Irabu or Nomo?

The article on [Hideki Irabu] says that the posting system came about because of the San Diego Padres claiming his exclusive rights. This article says it came about because of Nomo. Which one is right? If it's a little of both, we should expand the article to fully explain. --Don Sowell 15:40, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

I think I wrote the part about Nomo, but I didn't refer to any sources (I know, I know, always cite). This International Herald Tribune article suggests that the Irabu saga was the motivation, while this MLB.com piece says Nomo (and Alfonso Soriano). I do agree that it's a little of both, in that losing Nomo and Soriano without compensation motivated Japanese teams to come up with a formalized system, while the Irabu ordeal created the motivation for MLB players, and by extension, MLB teams. Ytny (talk) 18:26, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Posting Fee in US Dollars or Yen?

The popular press in the US tends to report posting fees in US Dollars --- for example, Daisuke Matsuzaka's posting fee was reported widely as $51.11 million (6 billion yen). This leads me to assume that the Boston Red Sox offered the Seibu Lions a posting fee in a round number of Japanese yen and the news media converted it to a rough US dollar equivalent when they reported the story. But is this always the case or are US teams free to offer bids in dollars or yen? Rickterp 14:57, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure they are the dollar amounts and the teams are just being playful with their bids. The 194 on the end of the bid for Kei Igawa, for example, represents how many times he struck someone out in his previous season. Torsodog (talk) 05:48, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
And similarly, Red Sox's bid for Matsuzaka was actually, $51,111,111.11, which I'm can't find any source explaining the significance of, except possibly Theo Epstein's love of Price is Right. --Mosmof (talk) 12:33, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
Here's a fuller explanation of the amount. -Phoenixrod (talk) 07:08, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] GA review

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

  1. Is it reasonably well written?
    A. Prose quality:
    B. MoS compliance:
  • the first sentence (the introduction sentence), it says that it is in effect between Japan's NPB and MLB, is there an MLB in Japan, if not, it should read "and the United States MLB"
  • The second sentence also needs revision, and since there were no set legal rules in place to govern process, problems arose. (do you mean "to govern the process"?)
  • I believe that the word "major" in the third sentence is not needed. Sounds un-neutral.
  • This retirement enabled Nomo to void his contract with the Buffaloes and sign with the Los Angeles Dodgers a year later where he put together a season worthy of winning him the National League Rookie of the Year award.-there is a missing punctuation here, that makes the sentence read akward, "," should be before the "where". Also that last part of that sentence read un-neutral, it should read more along the lines of "where he played a season that placed him as a candidate for the NLRotY award.
  • In the pats posting table, there one of the "winning bids" reads "Undisclosed", could you elaborate on what is meant here?
  • Also, in what currency is the winning bid in?
  1. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
    A. References to sources:
    B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:
    C. No original research:
  2. Is it broad in its coverage?
    A. Major aspects:
    B. Focused:
  3. Is it neutral?
    Fair representation without bias:
    There are some places, which I posted above, that need revision.
  4. Is it stable?
    No edit wars, etc:
    There has been a recent IP edit, where he changed one of the sentences, is the edit correct, or incorrect?
  5. Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
    A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:
    B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:
  6. Overall:
    Pass or Fail:
    This is a well written article, and meets many of aspects of the GA-criteria, however, there a few minor problems, but I assume they can be fixed promptly, and the article can pass then, but for now, I will give it a week's time before it is passed or fail. Good Luck!SRX 21:40, 19 May 2008 (UTC)


Checklist

  • Y Done The first sentence (the introduction sentence), it says that it is in effect between Japan's NPB and MLB, is there an MLB in Japan, if not, it should read "and the United States MLB"
  • Y Done The second sentence also needs revision, and since there were no set legal rules in place to govern process, problems arose. (do you mean "to govern the process"?)
  • Y Done I believe that the word "major" in the third sentence is not needed. Sounds un-neutral.
  • Y Done This retirement enabled Nomo to void his contract with the Buffaloes and sign with the Los Angeles Dodgers a year later where he put together a season worthy of winning him the National League Rookie of the Year award.-there is a missing punctuation here, that makes the sentence read akward, "," should be before the "where". Also that last part of that sentence read un-neutral, it should read more along the lines of "where he played a season that placed him as a candidate for the NLRotY award.
  • Y Done In the past posting table, there one of the "winning bids" reads "Undisclosed", could you elaborate on what is meant here?
  • Y Done Also, in what currency is the winning bid in?
  • Y Done There has been a recent IP edit, where he changed one of the sentences, is the edit correct, or incorrect? (it was not technically incorrect, though I changed it to "neither team" in order to avoid any confusion)
  • Y Done There are some places, which I posted above, that need revision.


First of all, thank you so much for taking the time to review my article! Secondly, I have addressed every suggestion outlined in the your checklist, hopefully adequately. I hope this is enough to have it pass the GA criteria. Torsodog (talk) 22:48, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
Looks way more better, just one thing you said you checked, but you didn't. Which was, "In what currency is the Bid under? USD or Yen?SRX 22:59, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
Actually, I addressed it in the Process section by adding the parenthetical phrase in The Commissioner then notifies all MLB teams of the posted player and holds a four-day-long silent auction during which interested MLB teams submit sealed bids (in USD) to the Commissioner’s Office. Did you have something less subtle in mind? Torsodog (talk) 23:13, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
Oh, I missed that. Thank you. Now that these concerns have been addressed, this article is now a GA. Congratulations.SRX 23:23, 19 May 2008 (UTC)