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[edit] Patent?

Does anyone know when (or if) Post-Its were patented? Or maybe when other companies first began producing them as well? Dansiman 04:45, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

i wonder too if post-its may belong to Category:Genericized trademark? Chensiyuan 01:31, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] How does the glue work?

Came here hoping for an explanation of the distinctive glue on a post it note but none found. 84.9.72.249 23:05, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

- I remember reading about this some time ago. I'll check my info and touch up the article. 62.254.216.154 10:03, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup needed

It seems someone added a number of unsourced details (which might still be correct, of course), that also contains several grammatical errors. See this diff. --Vinsci 02:30, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] inhaled through smoke

would the chemicals found in the paper be harmful to ones self if inhaled through smoke?

[edit] History

As it stands, the "History" of Post-it(R) Notes is mainly gibberish after the first few sentences. The original repositionable adhesive, based on elastomeric microspheres made by dispersion polymerization was patented by Spence Silver at 3M (US patent 3,691,140). It is clear from the patent specification that his original intention was to make an adhesive the could be applied by spraying, rather than a repositionable adhesive. The first significant use of the adhesive was to make sticky bulletin boards before its use in Post-it(R)Notes which was indeed pioneered by Art Fry.

I tried to further correct the historical account, adding dates and removing, for example, unsourced allegations that Spencer "stumbled upon" a glue that didn't work.--Kaicarver 18:52, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

To my knowledge, there is no truth whatever and I have seen no documentation whatever in regards to the allegation that any party was owed royalties or somehow slighted, or that any royalty agreement was established with any party in the early days of Post-it(R) Note history. This appears to be pure gibberish. An allegation of a verbal agreement "in the main" relayed by intermediaries? I have no idea what that even means, and I doubt the writer does either.

At various times between 1986 and 1997 I attended trade shows and FOP shows for 3M's office supplies division, and many people at various times came up at our booth and claimed that they had invented Post it notes. The inventor, Art Fry, who often went to these shows too, personally mentioned to me in the past that many many people had come up to him at various times stating that they had had the idea first, that they had somehow invented it, or whatever. Art told me that he usually asked them to tell him the story of what they did with the idea, that he'd love to hear about it, and wonders why they gave up on the idea? Normally they would mumble something like "well, I didn't do anything with the idea but I wish I had..." and that's the end of it.

Surely some Roman soldier somewhere 1400 years ago stuck a wad of pine pitch onto the back of a scrap of sheepskin and stuck it on the back of his chariot as a reminder and invented a sticky piece of paper. The idea of taping up a piece of paper is as old as tape itself. The real magic was in the particular kind of adhesive that was used.

- a 20-year 3M employee

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Another Editor removed this unsourced and dubious (although fairly lengthy) section from the article. I am placing it here in case anyone wants to source some of it and reinsert it.

The original run of post-it notes were used as bookmarks for the aforementioned hymnal. The remainder were shown to 3M marketing dept. who rejected them as useless. At that point Art Fry looked for further investors and a consortium he found in proxies for Raymond Howard of Redlands Ca. whom in 1978 acquired a small fortune from the Gene Roddenberry Estate for having formatted Star Trek with Gene Roddenberry in 1964 at the age of "seven." Raymond Howard suggested that the hymnals as 3M saw them as well was a very limited market, and that he knew a girl who had Asperger's Syndrome and whose husband had to post with scotch tape and 3 X 5s menus for her to follow. That if 3 X 3s were produced with Silver's product that they would serve better for product distribution as "post-it notes!" Three products would be available in the market then, flag it's, post it notes, and the dispensers, and that Art Fry get credit and be on the board of CEOs. Distribution Ray Howard suggested via telephone conferencing was that the products be "cold call marketed" so that stores acquiring the product would only order per their demand. Within 3M the demand was immediate! Ray Howard was supposed to receive 5% royalties per this agreement and 3M to date has not complied with what was a verbal agreement relayed through his proxies as represented in the main by Thomas Fitzmaurice of Yucaipa Ca.
A more recent innovation is software that partly mimics the behaviour of Post-it notes on the computer desktop. Most of the current proprietary or open source packages limit the placement or "adhesion" of the virtual note to a fixed spot over or on the desktop, and a few permit sharing the notes through the Internet. Recent efforts like Project Looking Glass or PtiMemo have striven towards features which give a virtual equivalence to the versatility of the tangible Post-it.
Post-It notes are available in a wide variety of sizes and formats. Standard pads have the adhesive stripe on one edge, like in book binding. In the mid 80's, 3M launched a fan-folded version of Post-It pads with the adhesive stripe on alternative sides. These pads can be installed on a dispenser and dispense one-at-a-time like disposable tissue.
Due to a halt in production in late 2005, the circular post it notes are now the hardest to find variety.

Ardent†alk 14:55, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Post Its in popular culture

Surely it is necessary to mention the plug for Post Its in Romy & Michelle's High School Reunion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.216.64.18 (talk) 07:28, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The inventor?

The article clearly gives credit for the Post-It note to Art Fry and, of course, the man responsible for the adhesive, Spence Silver. Who, then, is "Mark Haas"? He's credited with this invention in the article's opening sentence and is never mentioned again. And Google searches don't link that name to Post-It notes except in this Wikipedia article.

David Sol (talk) 15:05, 2 April 2008 (UTC)