Talk:Porthmadog Harbour railway station

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[edit] Date of Platform Awning?

The date of the awning is given here as 1985. I first came across the FR in 1986, and there was definitely no awning then. Nor was there at Easter 1987 when I took photos. The FR wiki refers to "between 1985 and 1988", which is vague! Hogyn Lleol 19:55, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Ah! The first references in the FR Mag seems to be a photo in the Summer 1987 issue (showing an erected canopy, minus valancing), followed by a mention in the Autumn 1987 issue which states that "the canopy has been completed except for the valancing". Hogyn Lleol 20:11, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

The vagueness of which you rightly speak is roughly the time it took from inception to completion. As reported in FR Publications at the time:

Heritage Journal No. 5 November 1985 - Planning permission has been obtained for a canopy over the full length of the platform and for an extension to the toilets. Foundations for the canopy will be laid during the construction of a new drain this winter.

FR Magazine No. 111 Winter 1985/6 - Longish article describing work to be done if volunteers can be found to do it including Porthmadog, proper drainage, improved Gents’ toilets, disabled facilities, resurfacing of platform and car park, foundations for a platform awning.

FR Mag. No. 117 Summer 1987 - The platform canopy or awning nearing completion on the newly resurfaced platform.

FR Mag. No. 118 Autumn 1987 - The platform canopy is complete except for the valance, and also the new blockwork platform surface. Heavy rain soon after completion of the roofing brought forth many favourable comments. Control have, however, had to abandon the traditional direct approach in favour of communication with platform staff by telephone, owing to line of sight being interrupted by the canopy. Would someone please correct the date as appropriate? NoelWalley 20:24, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Next Station - WHR

I've reset this back to Pen-Y-Mount.

This is for several reasons,

The CTRL is planned to be completed prior to the connection from the north, so a connection to OYM prior to PC.

I don't know where the idea of no platform at PYM comes from ? plans and agrements are already in place for this. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 62.6.139.11 (talk • contribs) .

I'd be in favor of not having a preceeding station at all, whether Pont Croesor or Pen-y-mount. There is no cross-town rail link at present (bar the Cambrian crossing) and no trains currently run out of Porthmadog towards Beddgelert. Until they do, its sort of misleading to suggest otherwise. I think there are three basic options:

1. No preceeding station at all: this reflects the current operational reality
2. Reflect the historical situation of the 1923 WHR, in which case Croesor Junction is correct (?) and a footnote should be added to indicate this was the period 1923-1937
3. Reflect the forthcoming situation, in which case either Pont Croesor or Pen-y-Mount (I think its the latter) would be right, but again a footnote should be added to indicate this won't be complete until 2009

Thoughts? Gwernol 14:27, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

I have taken the relevant TWA map as my source, which indicates PYM on the branch to the Tremadog Road station. -- Stewart 17:25, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, I did not see this discussion until after I had reverted the anon. Had I done so, I would have been inclined to remove the info box entry entirely, in accord with the first option offered by Gwernol. Until the link is built, any info in the infobox is misleading to the casual inquirer, so why is it there? likewise entries generally for the future or the disused, be they lines or stations or services. In terms of information to the casual inquirer, they are all grossly misleading. Come on folks, all this bickering shows the Welsh Highland in a very bad light. Please lets go back to writing real articles. NoelWalley 18:39, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Surgestion: why not just add next station as 'Junction Railway (Under construction)', that then leave the destination open, but gives a link to the next section.