User talk:Ponder

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[edit] Welcome

Hello Ponder and welcome to Wikipedia! Hope you like it here, and stick around.

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[edit] Near Earth asteroid

Thanks for putting the million back in the price at Near Earth asteroid. At $450 I could do the search myself! Rmhermen 13:12, Aug 10, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] There

Thanks. I always thought there was a page for that. [[User:Supadawg|supadawg - talk - contribs]] 21:59, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)

If this is referring to There, thanks for the revert while you were just an IP. Thanks also for catching the Pepsi vandalism by tracking the users contributions. I never would have noticed. --TIB (talk) 01:23, Aug 18, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Stressed

Wow, you sure got fed up fast.  :P --TIB (talk) 04:59, Aug 19, 2004 (UTC)

Nice user page.  :D --TIB (talk) 06:24, Aug 28, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Pentathlon

See Olympic_medalists_in_athletics_(women)#Pentathlon. At the olympics, there was a women's pentathlon from 1964, replaced by heptathlon from 1984 onwards. It is completely different from the modern pentathlon, which involves shooting, horse riding, a 3k run, fencing and something else. Dunc_Harris|☺ 14:35, 29 Aug 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Testing

Please don't create test articles in the name space. There's always the sandbox. RickK 22:32, Sep 1, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] User page spelling correction

I appreciate your proofreading skill, but I consider "fourty" to be the correct spelling. :) -- Grunt   ҈  18:52, 2004 Sep 3 (UTC)

[edit] There vandalism

Thanks for help (reverting and listing on Wikipedia:Vandalism in Progress) with that. This seems to be a persistent vandal that several admins have blocked over the last weeks. Andris 22:11, Sep 10, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] notenglish

Please, when you add the tag {{notenglish}} to an article, also make a note at Wikipedia:Pages needing translation into English. If you don't, I will eventually do it, but it's not exactly my favorite task, and it may sometimes be days before I go looking for these. -- Jmabel 06:07, Sep 24, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Article Licensing

Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 2000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:

Option 1
I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:
{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}

OR

Option 2
I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions to any [[U.S. state]], county, or city article as described below:
{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" with "{{MultiLicensePD}}". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man (comment| talk)

I'm sorry if I've offended you by posting this on your page. For what its worth, I posted 400 of these messages manually, and then employeed the bot to do the next 1000 or so. The text of the message is the same regardless of who uploaded it, so if no one complained about me adding it using my main user account, why should the bot matter? I had also hoped that most people would consider my proposal not based on how it got to their user page but because of the content itself, and in fact I've so far only received 3 complaints out of about 1,500 requests. I am legally required to ask for explicit permission if I would like to seek to use someone's contributions under a different license. Since I am seeking a rather large group for permission, it is just not practical to ask thousands of users using a personal letter each. So in that respect, I was forced to use a spam-like message. My task would otherwise take me months to complete and you would STILL get a message dealing with this same topic on your page. – Ram-Man (comment) (talk)[[]] 00:02, Dec 11, 2004 (UTC)
It might have come to pass where the community agreed this was the best method to get the permissions you need, but I think it would have been better to discuss it first before turning your bot loose. I see now there are comments indicating you limited it to just the top 2000 users, so I guess it wasn't all users like I thought at first. It would have been good to say something like "this special mass-message to the top 2000 contributors was approved by consensus in this discussion here: (link)" -- Ponder 00:15, 2004 Dec 11 (UTC)
Please read some of the text on my talk page or archive where I explain how the purpose is not to change Wikipedia, but to share. – Ram-Man (comment) (talk)[[]] 00:51, Dec 11, 2004 (UTC)
I have not yet taken the time to digest the proposal itself, I'm only commenting on the method you chose to alert people about this project. I bet anyone who follows my suggestion above will get zero complaints next time. -- Ponder 00:58, 2004 Dec 11 (UTC)
I appreciate the desire not to have spamming. In fact, after the first 400 people, I had about 1 person who had anything to say about my message. A few people complained about wording of the statement or the size of it, but not that I put it on the talk page. I figured that 1 in 400 was acceptable, so I started using the bot. I've stopped the bot for now to see what everyone has to say, as I don't want to start a war. – Ram-Man (comment) (talk)[[]] 01:13, Dec 11, 2004 (UTC)
1 in 400 was a form of implicit consensus. Actually even after the spamming, only a few people have continued to express any sort of major concern. It seems that the consensus is still on the side of performing the "spamming". A simple reading of the comments on my page should show this. In any case, after receiving comments such as yours, I won't be continuing the spamming in the same form as before. I plan to use a much smaller less obtrusive message with links to more information. – Ram-Man (comment) (talk)[[]] 14:23, Dec 14, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Tsunami

Hi Ponder, thank you for restoring my first edit to tsunami. As you probably have guessed, my second edit was not intentional vandalism but a mistake. I tried to restore it myself, but got into an editing conflict with ChrisO.Paul 20:10, 9 Jan 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Presidential Callsigns

I know about the Foreign Military One, but I researched the user who initiated that article and it seems that he has a ... penchant for persistence. I decided it would be easier to include it italicized in the template than to get into a "fight" with him over it. For now, I'll leave it as is, but if it gets too involved, I'm tempted to wash my hands of it. — THOR 18:00, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Also, amusingly, both the template & the Foreign Military One talk page are both my content.  ;^) — THOR 18:05, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)