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[edit] ROC v Taiwan

As far as I can see an agreement was not yet reached on using ROC in stead of Taiwan Gangulf 09:21, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)

In light of the recent page moves, I'd like to clarify that an agreement does in fact exist in the form of Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Chinese). Following those conventions, the political entity should be referred to as the ROC. --MarkSweep (call me collect) 17:44, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Poll

Was anyone here aware Instantnood is running another poll to move "XXX of Taiwan" to "XXX of the Republic of China" at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (Chinese)/NPOV/Taiwan vs. ROC? The poll "started" a week ago, but since no pages link to the polling page, I thought maybe it was a little onesided and needed some publicity... SchmuckyTheCat 21:27, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Please kindly check Special:Whatlinkshere/Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (Chinese)/NPOV/Taiwan vs. ROC (except those added by SchmuckyTheCat just now), for what pages are linked to it. Thank you.
Please also note that the polls there are enforcement of the naming conventions. — Instantnood 21:50, Apr 5, 2005 (UTC)

Disclaimer

I first suggested to proceed to have a poll as a solution on March 10 at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (Chinese)/archive4#Solution, and there was no objection. More than two weeks later on March 26 I suggested to have polls on a case-by-case basis (at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (Chinese)/NPOV#Solution). A link was added at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (Chinese)/NPOV#Solution to direct readers to the polling page on March 31, at the time when the polling page was created.

SchmuckyTheCat is wrong for accusing me for starting the polls with no page linked to it, that it might resulted in onesided and lack of publicity. Please note this is an accusation, though I am pretty sure opinion wouldn't be affected easily. — Instantnood 06:41, Apr 6, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Three principles

The obsolete Three principles is no longer important in ROC politics. Leaving it on the template seems to be anachronistic. Can we remove it?--Mababa 01:25, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

Did Lien Chan mention it in his speech at Peking University? — Instantnood 02:33, May 6, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] I changed the layout

I changed the layout of the template. For more information on this layout and on the series of boxes, see the text below. Electionworld 12:22, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] The Series boxes Politics of the_Republic_of_China

For all countries a series box on Politics has been made. Most follow the same layout (exceptions Australia and Romania. For two countries the series is integrated in a more comprehensive series, Israel and Serbia and Montenegro. Gradually I am working on these templates (consider it a project, see my Project Page. Some settings of the direction I am working to:

  • Layout: First the link to the country, followed by the Flag or Arms and the link to Politics of the_Republic_of_China. The box continues with links on issues like (when available): The constitution, Parliament, Government (with link to Head of State and Head of Government), Parties and elections. It ends with a link to the Politics Portal, Politics by country, Political parties by country and elections by country. An example of the layout can be found at the German entry.
  • We had some earlier debates on listing in the box individual parties and election results. That discussion led to a negative answer. If this doesn't change, I will delete these links in due time.
  • The box is placed on all pages linked to, except for the country itself, as well on the entries of individual parties and election results. When a page has an info box, generally a link to Politics of the_Republic_of_China is placed.

For the layout two templates are used: politicsbox and politicsboxend. I will try and improve the start in a new template polibox.

If you want to debate the boxes in general, please do it here or add a new section in the general debate, and not at the individual boxes. If you want to debate an individual box, do that in the usual way above at edit this page. Electionworld 14:40, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] New Venezuela integration template

Greetings. I can see that you've been doing great work standardizing the politics/elections articles, templates, and formats. All other things equal, I am highly supportive of this. However, we who have been upgrading the Venezuela-related articles are in need of an integrated, cross-theme template, which would follow along the lines of the much acclaimed template:Israelis navigation tool. The exists now a similar feature for the Venezuelan articles (at template:Venezuelans1, which is featured at the right), and we need to replace the template:Politics of Venezuela box with this new tool. Although you have done well standardizing template:Politics of Venezuela, is is unforunately bulky, and is not sufficiently cross-theme. It is not slim enough nor short enough to fit elegantly into all the articles we are developing. I have tried to accommodate your concerns within the new template by adding a link to your politics portal (which also features on the template:Israelis tool). I would be glad to generously accommodate any other concerns you may have, by adding more links to standard politics/elections articles. I, however, feel it is unfair for anyone who protests to behave in a discriminatory fashion by allowing Israel-related articles a common template, but not allowing such a tool for Venezuelan articles. The new template is greatly needed, and we intend to implement it.

Yes, some degree of standardization is good, but each nation has its own unique flavor and culture that cannot be treated justly by a uniform-sized and designed template. The Israel-related articles display this principle with their template prominently. I believe that your suggestions and support of this new template would greatly improve the navigability and integration of Venezuela articles. Please drop me your comments on my talk page. Thank you. Saravask 23:44, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Semiprotected

This page is semiprotected due to persistant reverts disregarding previous consensus. To the anon in question, the use of "Taiwan" in parenthesis when introducing the ROC has been an accepted compromise used on ROC related articles including this one until now. You are requested to discuss this issue with other involved editors either on this talk page or on Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (Chinese) before making any more changes. -Loren 08:46, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Loren, this is a completely out of bounds statement. 1) you are not an admin 2) this page was never protected 3) use of the template to mark this article as semiprotected when it isnt is a WP:POINT and should end with you being blocked. You are not supposed to use Semi-protection as a threat during an edit conflict. Do this again and I will be forced to block you.  ALKIVAR 01:13, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
Responded. I suggest you reevaluate those statements. -Loren 01:35, 14 April 2006 (UTC)