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Actually the sport of Jai Alai i also played right handed

Pakistan at most times was part of the persian empire at was inhabited be elamo-dravidians; the Aryans who are we know as iranians or persians.

we forget that it was the Persians who domesticized the horse and rode it firs, it seems really logical for the people there to be the first to start a sport with it.

This article really fails to capture the essence of polo. Polo is about the game, and the (actually rather incredible) concept that it is played on horseback.

The horses, referred to as "polo ponies" account for a significant portion of a team's ability. Player's generally own their own horses.

A good polo pony, upon sensing his rider leaning far over to hit the ball will move in under the rider so he can maintain his balance.

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[edit] 3100 BC!?

as i understand it, the domesticated horse would not appear in india until perhaps 1600 BC, 1500 years after polo in manipur was supposed to have been played there. this is extremely sketchy.--hamstar 22:04, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)


The famous match was between Iranian and Turanians and the latter only became synonymous with Turkmen during the Sassanid empire. THe match was between Iranians and central Asians, scythians probably, and occured before Zoroaster and therefore given the revision of Zoroaster's date was sometimes around 1500 BC. Is this the first ever international sporting game in history?

[edit] Torkaman???

" The first recorded polo match occurred in roughly 600 BC between the Turkomans and Persian, with victory going to the Turkomans. "

1. the main article is from there is no such it, in the article

2. Torkamn in 600 BC????

3. Which source may proof it????

[edit] Factual error

The actual number of players in a polo team are four for outdoor polo and three for arena polo. Therefore, you have either six or eight players on the pitch at any one time plus two mounted umpires.

The pitch dimensions quoted here are not the same as the ones quoted here: http://www.fippolo.com/document/File/Rules_2002_english.pdf Which is right?

[edit] Wall-to-wall copy edit

I'm in the process of doing a wall-to-wall copy edit of this article. If anyone has anything they would like to integrate, now's the time to speak up.

I just finished doing the Intro and did a quickie cleaning up of the Origins section. I expect to have the rest of the article polished up in a couple of days.

Cheers, --MILH 03:01, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Good luck. Mariano(t/c) 08:03, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

This page looks really messy. Giving arena polo its own section instead of switching back and forth between indoor and outdoor might clear it up. Right now the facts are sort of jumbled together (in outdoor the ball is... in indoor the ball is...) What do you guys think?

128.253.2.15 01:03, 2 February 2007 (UTC)Anon

[edit] Cleanup

This article needs MAJOR revising, as right now it's just one huge mess. I will get around to it eventually but right now I'm just too busy. --ILoveFuturama 02:28, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

The article contradicts itself twice, first saying that the number one is the hardest player, then saying three is the best player. then as you go on, its says that player one is usually the least experienced. ???142.46.7.18 06:04, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

It doesn't contradict itself, although this particular point is inaccurate. It is not the number 1, but the number 2 that is the hardest position on the field to play because they are given the task of neutralizing the number 3 (who is often the best player on the field, although not always. Sometimes this can be the number 2) (TJC)

[edit] Rules

It'd be nice to have a section on the actual rules of Polo, how the teams interact, what penalties can be called for and how they work etc.

It would be nice to have a section on rules about polo.


The rules are VERY complex and the USPA rulebook is indeed very think, it would be difficult to summarizem it concisely. I can try as along as this isn't going to be subject to the merciless editing and constant deletions and reversions that seem typical here. In the meantime, here is a good overview of the rules:

http://www.polo.co.uk/polo_rules.htm

Perhaps the people from that site can be invited to contribute

69.158.100.5 05:44, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Finance

I'd like to see some information on how the game is financed and how well players are paid. I live near to polo fields and I see how expensive it must be to participate in or run a team. E.g. Horses, sorry ponies, are flown in from Argentina for competitions. Very few games charge spectators to watch yet the local facilities (Sotogrande, Spain) are incredible. EdX20 21:43, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Phillip Rosenthal

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[edit] CAIS links are not allowed here

A few days ago, I was having trouble reverting a piece of particularly severe vandalism to this article because the polo history link was blacklisted. I didn't understand why, but according to this ANI discussion, CAIS is apparently guilty of wanton copyright infringement and plagarism. Per WP:COPY#Linking to copyrighted works, even linking to sites that violate copyright could expose the Foundation to litigation. I've therefore removed all links to CAIS. My apologies, but there is no gray area in this matter. Blueboy96 22:47, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

This also required refactoring a talk page comment. Normally, this is bad practice, but WP:COPY takes precedence even in talk pages.Blueboy96 22:51, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Why are Spencer Tracey & Tommy Lee Jones Being Deleted From the List of Polo Players?

I notice that contributions indicating that Spencer Tracey played polo have all been reversed. I don't understand why. These are just a few references that indicate that he did indeed play polo. These are just a few references. There are others. I would think that before something is deleted, a simple google search should be conducted.

http://www.seeing-stars.com/Hotels/BeverlyHillsHotel.shtml

http://www.mouseplanet.com/articles.php?art=ww070711ws

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louise_Treadwell

Here are the sources re: Tommy Lee Jones:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000169/bio

http://www.pololine.com.ar/eng/interviews/intertljones.php

http://www.pologearusa.com/html/news/news_july17_00.html

69.158.100.5 05:48, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject class rating

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[edit] Chukka or chukker?

It's written as both in the article, and since I know bugger-all about polo I figured I'd point this out.--218.166.43.140 (talk) 09:01, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Inclusion of External Link To Polo.TV

In response (particularly) to IrishGuy. I feel that this is a highly relevant external link to include on the page, as this site has an extensive libaray of video clips showing high-goal polo being played around the world, & featuring the most important tournaments. This would, of course, be of interest to anyone interested in learning more about the sport of polo - I suggest you read the article first, to see that the featured video content is relevant - you will find out that these are the amongst the most notable tournaments played worldwide (British Open, US Open, Spanish Open etc etc). Secondly compare this external link with other ones on the article - again, at the very least, this link is as relevant, however I would suggest it is more relevant than most of the others on the polo article page. Why not investigate some of these ones further (for spam, COI, notability etc), rather than just delete my entry, simply because it was written by myself. Let's discuss here further before you remove again. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by First5wins (talk • contribs) 09:17, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Of course you find it to be relevant...you have a conflict of interest. Wikipedia is not a venue for promotion. Stop spamming. IrishGuy talk 14:40, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
Irish Guy - what is important here is that you are assuming a conflict of interest (and that appears to be your main prerogative, not the greater relevance/benefit of the Polo article, but instead you could be accused of waging a perosnal vendetta against any entry I've made). Simply accusing me of COI (unfounded, I hasten to add) is not enough. For the purposes of this discussion, I'm not connected with Blue Tuna but am very familiar very with their polo television series (I'm a polo player and watch their programmes extensively and have researched them, a fan therefore - is that permissable?), and believe it is both relevant & notable that 1/ a page exists for them Blue Tuna on wiki & 2/ the connection between polo & blue tuna is a valid one. As I have suggested to you previously, actually spend some time and read through the polo article and edit it (beleive me, there is an awful lot lacking from this article and much more significant edits required than merely undoing what I have written). But let's keep talking! —Preceding unsigned comment added by First5wins (talk • contribs) 15:30, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
I am aware of the Blue Tuna article. You wrote it. You have done nothing but promote Blue Tuna with each of your edits. Again, Wikipedia is not a venue for promotion. IrishGuy talk 15:40, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
Irish Guy - you are removing information that have no connection to blue tuna on this page - eg, my last tinclusion of Kenny Jones & Mike Rutherford, as examples of notable polo players. I've now re-included them with appropiate references. Please, do some research before you edit things. —Preceding unsigned comment added by First5wins (talk • contribs) 16:16, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
I reverted your edit because you were spamming again. Just as you did here with yet another Blue Tuna link. IrishGuy talk 16:27, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Southeast Asia section tense

Something is wrong in the Southeast Asia section, but I don't have time to mess with it. I threw up a "clean up tense" template. --130.127.53.144 (talk) 08:05, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

I did a bit of work on the section. Someone the Person (talk) 23:58, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Red Linked Notable Polo Players

There is getting to be quite a list of "notable" polo players on the main page, most of which are red linked. The ones with blue links can stay, as they're obviously notable enough to have an article about them, but the ones with red links I'm moving here. If any of these people eventually have articles written about them, they can be moved back to the main page.

  • Cecil Smith
  • Queen Jessica Fonseca
  • Rube Williams
  • Alejandro Diaz Alberdi
  • Craig Beasley
  • Gonzalo Pieres
  • Alberto Pedro Heguy, Sr.
  • Bautista Heguy
  • Horacio A. Heguy
  • Ignacio "Nachi" Heguy
  • Ignacio Heguy
  • Eduardo Novillo Astrada
  • Ignacio Novillo Astrada
  • Miguel Novillo Astrada
  • Javier Novillo Astrada
  • Juan Pablo Novillo Astrada
  • Mike Azzaro
  • Memo Gracida
  • Martin Prieto Gracida
  • Carlos Prieto Gracida
  • Sue Sally Hale
  • Sunny Hale
  • Juan Carlos Harriot
  • Oliver Portis
  • Max Stevens (Baller)
  • Victor-Mansour Semeika
  • Malcolm Borwick
  • Mister Whitey
  • Jeff Whitey
  • Mariano Aguerre
  • Bobby Beveridge
  • Owen Rinehart
  • Ignacio Guaia (Argentine polo player and breeder.)
  • Harley Stimmel
  • Bartolome Castagnola
  • Nader Gandur Castagnola
  • Estanislao Jalil Castagnola
  • Juan Carlos Castagnola
  • Gabriel Castagnola
  • Facundo Pieres
  • Gonzalo Pieres
  • Gonzalo Pieres (h)
  • Tomas Pieres
  • Andrew Martin McNeil
  • Milo Fernandez Araujo