Talk:Pollokshields
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[edit] "Asian" youths
The British commonly describe people of Middle Eastern, Indian, Pakistani, etc. origin as Asian, but the more international image of "Asian" is East Asians. Should be edited?
The Frederick 17:40, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
- I agree, the phrase used to describe the indian sub continent (india, pakistan, kashmir etc) is South Asia.
- I also agree, internationally, 'Asian' often refers to the japanese, chinese, koreans, vietnamese etc. As Wikipedia is an international organization I think 'Middle Eastern' would make the article easier to understand for people in the likes of the USA. Jackster (talk) 17:55, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Selective
Would add that highlighting a horrific incident but isolated incident as half of the description of the area isn't really informative. Every murder is important and horrific regardless of motivation/race. A murder is a murder.
I do not see any entry for three men that were slaughtered and tortured less than half a mile away in Govanhill - but i suppose when they were on the reciving end of boiling water on their faces, hearing the murderers' drills whirring on door lock and being bashed in with a golf club, they simply said "phew, at least they're killing me for something other than the colour of my skin".
The Kris Donald article takes up too much of this page. It should probably be edited down to one or two sentences. The page needs expanding generally. 86.0.203.120 02:04, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] BNP input?
It seems to me that there is nothing about the murder of Kriss Donald that is specific to Pollokshields or its history. There is a significant Asian community in the area, and I think it is crossly negligent to have the only mention of Asians being as murderers of a white boy. The BNP made a great play of this murder at the time, which leads me to suspect that whoever added this paragraph was a BNP sympathiser. I think that the paragraph concerning Kriss Donald should be deleted altogether. I won't do it myself because I would like to know if anyone agrees, but if you see this and do agree, please delete it.
I edited the paragraph down significantly some time ago. Even at that, it is too large and detailed relative to the size of the article, but the answer to that is to expand the rest of the article, not delete noteworthy information. The Kriss Donald case was particularly notorious, and the area is still associated with it in people's minds. I believe it should stay, and I'm certainly no BNP sympathiser. FrFintonStack 22:22, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
Perhaps it would be wise to remove the section of the article describing the BNP as not caring about people's feelings. Despite the truth in the statement, this article should rely on fact and personal opinions- no matter how appropriate- should generally be avoided unless reported as such. Moreover some of the article is too "wordy." There are spelling mistakes and, in general, the first paragraph of the section entitled: "So Called Gang Culture," does not make sense. I also suggest that future articles use more formal language I disagree with the use of contractions and other colloquiallisms in a formal article.
[edit] Who Are You?
Excuse me, who are you? please sign your name!!! (I'm talking to the guy/gal that's written the statement above!
[edit] EDITING!!!
Really if spot anything that has lead you to conclude that this article is full of mistakes, please - even if a lot of the mistakes are obvious - correct it yourselves! I have a copy of this article already saved - please edit it yourselves, as well this you'll be making a contribution to this article and for the good of Wikipedia!
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[edit] Garden Suburb
Please stop uncritically describing Pollokshields at the UK's first garden suburb. It is not, because it was not planned in accordance with garden suburb principals of the likes of Ebenezer Howard; indeed, it predates those principals by fifty years. It being a suburb and it having gardens does not make it a garden suburb. Indeed, there are plenty of places which meet those criteria that are considerably older than Pollokshields.FrFintonStack 17:14, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Pollokshields
Cultural emphasis in the Pollokshields page
I came across this page after following the story about the murder of Kriss Donaldson. I wanted to know a little more about the area of Glasgow mentioned in regard to this story.
In this article there appears to be a subtle emphasis, a subtext, that indicates that this area, above all, is a Muslim asian suburb. Entries are positioned in this light
read;
1. Church citations are entered only after the three Mosques are detailed , along with photos. Why is this given that Asians are not a majority in this area? Church descriptions, without photos, are standard "Pesvner" architectural copy, while the Mosque descriptions only emphasise the congregationalservices and communities they offer with nothing about the buildings themselves or their patrons.
2. That only Asian radio stations are mentioned. Why? are there no local speaking FM radio stations?
Its a good piece but there is clearly some bias here that needs sorting out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Oxfordtownlad (talk • contribs) 07:51, August 30, 2007 (UTC)
- The current emphasis is most probably a result of the interests of those who have taken the time to add to the page, rather than any deliberate bias. It is a fact that this area does have a large Asian population, so the Asian radio stations are "local speaking". To my knowledge, any English language stations serving the area are not nearly so local, not peculiar to this area and so not worth mentioning. But you are right, it would be great if someone with further knowledge of the area was to add to it. --Escape Orbit (Talk) 16:23, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
