Talk:Politics of England
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I have expanded this page substantially, particularly in regards to the devolution of Scotland, Wales and London, the Cornish issue, and also the regional debate. --MacRusgail 16:57, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
- You should add the sources of your information. Tim! 06:59, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
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- The devolution of Scotland and Wales hardly need "sources". I live in one of them! The article was appallingly small, and as such I have tended to link into other wikipedia articles, which are better sourced. I get the impression it was mainly intended as a "gateway page". --MacRusgail 18:27, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
In one of the first paragraphs, it says "every" when it should say "ever." I will change it. jcm
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[edit] Devolution of London
Part of England is already devolved - London!!! That section needs to be developed. Also I would argue that the English parliament never went away, it just expanded to include surrounding countries... --MacRusgail 10:17, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Text to be merged
[edit] Subdivisions
- See also: Counties of England
Historically, the highest level of local government in England was the county. These divisions had emerged from a range of units of old, pre-unification England (such as the Kingdoms of Sussex and Kent) and further mediaeval reorganisations (sometimes using duchies such as Lancashire and Cornwall). These historical county lines were usually drawn up before the industrial revolution and the mass urbanisation of England. The counties each had a county town and many county names were drawn from these (for example Nottinghamshire, from Nottingham).
A series of local government reorganisations have taken place since the latter part of the nineteenth century. The solution to the emergence of large urban areas was the creation of large metropolitan counties centred on cities (an example being Greater Manchester). The creation of unitary authorities, where districts gained the administrative status of a county, began with the 1990s reform of local government. Today, some confusion exists between the ceremonial counties (which do not necessarily form an administrative unit) and the metropolitan and non-metropolitan counties.
Non-metropolitan counties (or "shire counties") are divided into one or more districts. At the very lowest level, England is divided into parishes, though these are not to be found everywhere (many urban areas for example are unparished). Parishes are prohibited from existing in Greater London.
England is now also divided into nine regions, which do not have an elected authority and exist to co-ordinate certain local government functions across a wider area. London is an exception, however, and is the one region which now has a representative authority as well as a directly elected mayor. The 32 London boroughs and the Corporation of London remain the local form of government in the city.
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[edit] I've re-organised the sections
Hope this is an improvement. Perhaps individual sections can now be expanded. Cheers Fishiehelper2 (talk) 17:34, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
Hi there! I spent a bit of time and care trying to make a number of changes I thought were improvements - I think that reverting everything I did in one click is too strong a response. Do you really disagree with every change I made? I tried to move some of the sections around into a better order and I carefully moved the entire sections. The only section I deleted was with regards to Berwick (which I did not believe is an issue of controversy in either England or Scotland.) I also deleted a little bit as I changed and updated the section about England in the House of Commons. The bit about how Scottish legislation was voted on pre-devolution I changed because it was wrong. If you do disagree with all my changes, feel free to revert my revert and I will not revert back again! (though I will still try to correct the incorrect bit I referred to above, which I'm sure you won't object to.) Cheers Fishiehelper2 (talk) 19:41, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
- Berwick is relevant, since England believes it to be part of it, but never properly annexed it, and it arguably violates treaties etc. However, this article has to be better than a whinge about the evil "Celts" - something which seems to be a problem with English politics. There always has to be an outside scapegoat. I am glad that the London devolution section was not removed, merely moved. I will go over it, and see that it doesn't descend into rant. --MacRusgail (talk) 14:45, 21 January 2008 (UTC) p.s. As regards Scottish question time in Westminster, MPs from English constituencies used to go to these meetings and take up a lot of time commenting on stuff which had nothing to do with them, much to the ire of many Scots. So the West Lothian question's allegations were hardly one way. After all, England has forced various things on Scotland and Wales, e.g. Tryweryn, after the majority of MPs from those countries voted against them.
- Cheers. The best example I would use of the West Lothian question working the other way was the Poll Tax being inflicted on Scotland despite overwhelming majority of Scottish MPs being against - the conservatives claimed it was acceptable to do this as we were all part of a UK parliament, but the Conservatives produced a separate Scottish manifesto, got defeated in the election in Scotland, then imposed their ideas anyway based on having a huge majority south of the border! Well, the shoes on the other foot now!!! Cheers again Fishiehelper2 (talk) 16:21, 21 January 2008 (UTC)