Talk:Political positions of Mike Huckabee
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Can we get a reference for the "He supports the ten commandments being displayed in schools" please?
The reference to Huckabee's denial of evolution could be sharpened a bit. It's clear from the youtube video that Huckabee's disagreement is with macroevolution. To say that he denies "evolution" means nothing. People define evolution one hundred different ways. I think it accurate to say that Huckabee probably falls in more with the intelligent design crowd. He explicitly says on the youtube video that he has no idea how God created the earth (which means God might have used evolution to create the earth) or how long it took (which means Huckabee is probably not a young-earth creationist). Some precision would be useful here.
- Considering he believes in biblical inerrancy, I would say it's reasonable to assume he's in the YEC crowd. 12.160.52.130 (talk) 02:36, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Nonsense. I believe in biblical innerancy and I'm not a YECist.
And what's this tripe about how "it was well known by 1992 that AIDS could not be spread by casual contact"? Who said anything about casual contact? It's assumed that this guy was saying AIDS carriers should be separated to prevent AIDS being spread by casual contact. Why is that assumed? Why is it not assumed (as is probably the case) that this guy wanted AIDS carriers separated so that they wouldn't spread AIDS by sexual contact? That's obviously how it's been mostly spread, so it's pretty obvious AIDS carriers aren't refraining from having relations with non-carriers, so it's reasonable to remove them from society. Besides, a person who engages in behaviors that lead to AIDS infection (excepting things such as tainted blood transfusions or whatever) isn't likely to have the self-control (or not be a sociopath enough) to refrain from infecting others. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.163.0.43 (talk) 00:15, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Position on health care
Can we add a section for his position on health care? --Pete Wall 19:25, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Catholics
What is this guys possition on Catholics? I don't see anything but considering his background is he like a lot of other Baptist that want the U.S. to cut off relations with the Vatican and impose sanctions? Just a question, any info would be helpful. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.13.27.206 (talk) 06:01, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
- The first time I heard about him was at about this time in 2007, while reading the Sam Brownback page on facebook. Apparently Brownback had been getting undercut by a small anti-Catholic campaign originating from Huckabee's staff. Huckabee came out and said that he had no problem with Catholics or Sam Brownback, but didn't retract the comments.
- He knows it's not possible to win the election as a religious candidate without the Catholic vote, but he's also willing to appeal to anti-Catholic prejudices among rural white southern Protestants, where it's still very widespread. As for what his actual opinion is, your guess is as good as mine... how can you ever tell where actual positions end and pandering begins? 147.9.201.163 (talk) 15:38, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Vertical politics
I searched through Mike Huckabee, Mike Huckabee presidential campaign, 2008, and Political positions of Mike Huckabee for the word "vertical". Considering Huckabee's repeated references to, and strong platforming on "Vertical Politics", shouldn't this term and concept be included somewhere? I was half-expecting to find a Vertical politics article even, but there isn't. Thoughts? VigilancePrime (talk) 23:52, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
- I looked at the page here http://www.mikehuckabee.com/?FuseAction=Issues.View&Issue_id=24 This is how I interpreted various parts; "Ultimately, people don't care whether an issue comes from the left or the right. What they want to talk about are ideas that lift America up and make us better." - this is called triangulation. The prime example is when Dick Morris convinced Bill Clinton to move right in 1996 to help him win re-election. Dick Morris also advised Huckabee in 1993, 1994, and 1996 and urged Huckabee to moderate his image. "One of the goals of Vertical Day, is to give you the ability to promote our campaign and my positions on the issues within your extended network of friends, family members and co-workers." - this is called Buzz_marketing. It spreads a product by word of mouth. Huckabee has been extremely effective in using social networks to spread his message and gain support. "also create buzz and excitement" - again buzz marketing works by spreading the buzz. "The main focus of Vertical Day however, is a serious discussion of the most important issues facing America. That's why besides the video and blog posts you will see, I am conducting an exciting video web conference call, media interviews and I am even speaking to students at my alma mater. The plan throughout the day, is to promote my positions through video and personal blogs, and to engage in an online and sometimes offline conversation with voters about our ideas..." - Huckabee's blogger outreach is very effective. "After you visit our Vertical Day page, I urge you to contact your friends, family members and co-workers and encourage them to visit our campaign website." - again buzz marketing.
- The presidential campaign page could warrant a discussion of Huckabee's campaign strategy. It had not occurred to me before how much Huckabee's popularity came from social networks. He calls it Vertical Politics, I call it buzz marketing with some triangulation. Winning celebrity endorsements helps him spread among the fans of the celebrities. Jmegill (talk) 01:18, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
Makes sense. I was thinking of the "Wmericans don't want left-right, conservative-liberal, democrat-republican, etc... they want someone who will lift the country yp..." -type of stuff. Thanks for the links! VigilancePrime (talk) 01:39, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Question
Huckabee calls himself the "Christian Leader" and frequently makes biblical allusions in his campaign speeches. However, an interested person might wonder, does the biblical Jesus explicitly support any of the positions Huckabee endorses? If not, what is the relevance of religion to Huckabee's campaign? —Viriditas | Talk 10:20, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
- None. He and people like him use religion as a team identity. They can use it to rally people around themselves and against their opponents (Catholics, Muslims, homosexuals, Mormons, atheists, liberals, the list is almost endless). It has little to nothing to do with religion, it's simply the newest form of "us/them" tribalism now that racism's gone out of fashion. Churches like Huckabee's would be considered cults in almost any country outside of the U.S, Christian or otherwise. 147.9.201.163 (talk) 15:42, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
