Talk:Political parties of minorities

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Contents 1 removal of non-justified "expert" banner 2 Flemish 'Kartel' 3 Fiji 4 Name

[edit] removal of non-justified "expert" banner

This article exists since july 2005, an anonymous contributor placed on january 7th a banner asking for an expert advice on it, without any justification in the discussion page. I therefore removed the banner. --Pylambert 10:32, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Flemish 'Kartel'

A user suppressed the words Flemish 'Kartel' for municipal elections in Brussels, I disagree: on several occasions several Flemish parties bundled forces on 'Vlaams Kartel' lists for municipal elections in Brussels (see nl:Vlaams kartel). As these parties are quite obviously minority parties in every Brussels municipality, i.e. the parties of an ethnic or linguistic minority (in the average 15% of the population), this is indeed a case of an electoral coalition of ethnic parties. There were such Kartel lists in Sint-Lambrechts-Woluwe in 1976 [1] and 1982 [2], in Oudergem in 1976 [3], 1982 [4] and 1988 [5], in Anderlecht in 1988 [6], in Etterbeek in 1976 [7], 1982 [8] and 1988 [9], in Sint-Gillis in 1976 [10], 1982 [11], in Sint-Joost-ten-Node in 1982 [12]. --Pylambert 21:55, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fiji

Deleted POV again. Keep it off. Fiji does have 46 out of 71 seats ethnically reserved, but if that makes it "the most extreme case", you'd better source that claim as per Wikipedia policy, or else I'll keep on removing it.

BTW, the ethnic reservation of seats has not prevented multiracial parties from playing a vigorous role in the past. The Fijian Alliance which ruled from 1970 to 1987 was multiracial (it had more support among Fijians to be sure, but also attracted up to 25 percent of the Indian vote), and the Fiji Labour Party was multiracial until Tupeni Baba left, with most of his Fijian supporters, in 2001. At the 1999 election, the FLP and its allies had won a majority of the seats; its power baswe was the Indian constituencies but several Fijians were elected on its ticket, and its Fijian ally, the Fijian Association Party, won a number of Fijian reserved seats.

I repeat: if you're going to claim that Fiji is the most extreme case of ethnic politics, you'd jolly well better be prepared to source that claim. "The most extreme" is a very POV expression, and Wikipedia will not tolerate it without substantiation. David Cannon 03:52, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

I restored the mention of the Fijian situation, without "most extreme case", even if I still consider that a combination of ethnic allocation of a majority of seats and of ethnic parties (even if all parties are not ethnic) makes it the most extreme case nowadays. The whole article is very clearly neutral and scientific, extreme doesn't have a negative meaning, I don't understand your problem with that adjective but I am not a native English speaker, I guess you know better. --Pylambert 10:31, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

OK, inbetween the problem has been solved. Thank you. --Pylambert 10:33, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Name

Who counts as "minorities?" This list is only about ethnic minorities, so it should either be renamed Political parties of ethnic minorities (or somesuch), or it should be expanded to include other kinds of minorities (e.g. linguistic, religious, etc.). -Justin (koavf)·T·C·M 14:13, 31 August 2006 (UTC)