Talk:Polish minority in the Czech Republic/Archive 1

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Pass GA

The article appears to be well referenced. The language is coherent. There are some illustrative images.

The article would probably benefit from having another paragraph to the lead section, per WP:LEAD. For further suggestions of improvement, the article should undergo peer review.

Fred-Chess 14:39, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Church in Guty?

Why do you consider wooden church in Guty to be one of the architectonical symbols of the Polish minority? There is no Polish inscription inside (on the contrary there are some in Czech and Latin), it was built in pre-nationalist era and as far as I know, there has not took place any event important for the history of the Polish minority in the Czech republic there. I think that Polish house in Cieszyn or something like this would fit better. --Qasinka 20:21, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Repetition

Parts of this article are mere repetition from Zaolzie. Please rework, or condense into blurb with link to 'main article'. +Hexagon1 (t) 06:53, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Yes, it is a repetition but just a repetition of some important and basic facts. Zaolzie article is now much longer which is not projected here. Reworking or condensing is thus obsolete. Also, this is a GA-class article. - Darwinek 15:10, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Assimilation of Poles into Czech population at turn of century?

Why would mostly illiterate Galician Poles who immigrated to work in hard labour supposedly assimilate into the minority Czech population of mostly admin. clerks, instead of the usual numerical or cultural majority, who happened to be their fellow Poles with whom they shared language, culture, employment, numerical superiority? Their low national conciousness- (full) stomach over mind (nationalism)- which is mentioned in the article- would alone seem to continually make them passive (A-H/Galician) citizens with a local patriotism at best, ie. Polish Zaolzians, yet the article goes on to contradict itself that these passive labourers were in fact conciously active in their it would seem uphill choice of Czech assimilation.

Even Germanization seems more probable, not even owing to official policy -which was practically non-existant in Austria-Hungary, much unlike neighbouring German Prussia, clearly visible in the availability of Polish language of instruction in elementary and secondary education- but to an independently-motivated drive, on an individual basis, on the part of those seeking an advance in social rank/employment/etc. which Czech might not have guaranteed, logically dissecting.

Maybe this is a "blooper" and should be omitted altogether unless another source comes forward, assuming it's not an actual "freak of nature" and hence interesting fact indeed meriting mention? In that case, the reason should be given... my sceptical hypothesis being settlement in concentrated Czech areas due to some higher power or other factor and/or intermarriage? 83.5.206.55 (talk) 20:52, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Hello. As is stated in the article, most of them settled in Ostrava coal basin which is and was predominantly ethnic Czech. Several Polish schools and organisations were established in Ostrava at that time but their life was short as all immigrants in the course of the time assimilated. Today, ethnographers found some 25,000 Polish surnames in Ostrava alone, during recent research. And to be a "Galician Pole" is still used by some older local people as a description of someone totally simple or dumb (Polish word ciemnota is better). - Darwinek (talk) 21:00, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
Hi. So puzzle solved. I was automatically equating Zaolzie Poles with all Poles in this case Czech Silesia as a blanket term of sorts since there was no distinction in the article- now fixed. 83.5.206.55 (talk) 21:17, 17 December 2007 (UTC)