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[edit] From Talk:Stripper pole

For a December 2004 deletion debate over this page see Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Stripperpole

Even the expanded version seems entertainment rather than information. It's good to be entertaining, but it's not our primary job.

  • About how big is this thing? Six feet? Six inches?

-depends on the height of the ceiling it is being installed in.

  • Is it carried in the hands, or a fixture, or something else? Or are there several types?
  • Is it round in cross section? Or something else? Or doesn't it really matter?

-yes it is round

  • If it's an invention, who invented it and about when? Ancient Rome? Soho in the 1920s? Or unknown and lost in the history of stripping? Or is invention just flowery language?
  • Is it common? Would you be expected to know how to use one to get a job as a stripper? Or is its use restricted to certain cultures (which)?

-No you would not be expected to know how to use one if you want to be a stripper, you would however need to know how to use it, if you wanted to be a pole dancer

  • Did any of the famous strippers listed in our main article use one?


If we can't answer at least a few of these questions, then is it perhaps a neologism and should be relisted on VfD (assuming it gets through this time)? The question of size and general purpose should probably be answered in the first paragraph. It is partly answered in the striptease article, but it's still a bit obscure and I don't feel competent to transcribe the information (if information it be, rather than speculation).

I feel a little like the boy in The Emperor's New Clothes asking these questions. I hope he has something on! Andrewa 13:36, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] A world federation?

We read: The World Pole Sport Federation hosts the annual Miss Pole Dance World event which began 29 August 2003.

Sounds pretty newsworthy. But Google hits for "Miss Pole Dance World" are in the context of stripping (nothing wrong with that, but not what the article seems to be discussing), and aside from this article and its commercial scrapes there are no Google hits for "World Pole Sport Federation". I infer that this is badly garbled at best, a hoax at worst, so I'm about to delete it. -- Hoary 06:15, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Also, the 2005 competition actually wasn't the first one, but the second one. Reiko Suemune actually was not the first place, but second - the first place was disqualified on grounds that the dancer stripped - reality is shady. I think Reiko too was disqualified later while she was doing promotion, but under some strange circumstances and it seems that it was because of the shady organization of the event. The organizers of this event have treated dancers very poorly, which caused many dancers to shun this competition. I am not sure how to cover this in a neutral way.

[edit] Alternativ versions

I know that the alternative versions described exist, although not categorized.

Why is Flying Men Dance not a version of pole dance? A pole plays there an important role.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.160.91.83 (talk • contribs)

Because obviously you don't know what you wrote about. It is not a pole dance, just as maypole dance or bunjee jumping are not pole dance. 15:15, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Where's the history?

It seems to me that one thing this article is missing is history and the information on the origins of pole dancing. The article talks about pole dancing as if it is something that simply exists now. It had to come from somewhere. Who came up with it? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 142.177.113.241 (talk) 04:01, 10 April 2007 (UTC).

I heard it originated in Vancouver strip-clubs in the late 1970's and then slowly spread to the rest of North America. According to Vlad Lapidos's The Good Striptease Guide to London (1996), it crossed the Atlantic and hit London, England in 1996. Colin4C 14:34, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Added History to Links:Jim Dunn WP (talk) 12:39, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] white space

is there anyway anyone can tidy up the photos/text to get rid of oceans of blank space between sections? (No Im not suggesting reduced number of pictures, just tidying up) IdreamofJeanie 17:13, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Done Nekrorider July 30.