Talk:Poison (Final Fight)

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[edit] ---Posion's Gender---

People are constantly questioning Poisons gender. If anyone has any scans of the books where its says she is a newhalf that would help to end debates.

A "newhalf?" --AWF

-I changed it to the better sounding "transsexual". That should clear it up. TheHelldragon 23:27, 28 August 2006 (UTC)TheHelldragon

--Actually, that won't work, because she didn't have a sex change. "Transsexual" implies that she did, when in fact "she" is still male.--Kung Fu Man 03:45, 30 August 2006 (UTC) --Okay, read the article there...lemme do a quick fix then to better explain it.--Kung Fu Man 03:46, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

"Transsexual" Girls come in pre-op and post op flavours; and the word applies equally to both. You, sir, are incorrect.

---I know what they were trying to imply to begin with...I probably used the wrong word. Apologies. Freudian slip.--TheHelldragon 00:01, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

---I edited Posion's article to make it less POV. Before anyone starts, I believe that Posion is a newhalf; just that I removed or merged some sentences which imo, seems to either repeat or argue against a statement made in a previous sentence. Having one sentence saying that the game made a mistranslation of Roxy being female and than having another sentence in another body of the same article, saying it is a recton can confuse the average reader or make it sound as if certain people are expressing their own opinions on Roxy's gender.--Doomzaber 09:43, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

--- I think you guys are making it too complicated, Poison was/is female, Nintendo bitched about it, so they put a penis on her and called her a newhalf. After people started dealing with the fact that sometimes females are going to get their asses beaten into submission, her story stopped including the fact that she was a newhalf and was more feminine. And I'm no expert but I believe newhalf's definition is a Female with Male organs,(sometimes because of surgical replacement). Due to the fact that she was a pure female before Nintendo had her changed, I would go with she was a female and had a sex change or was born with it. When the facts aren't clear, don't sit there dumbfounded with drool hanging down your chin trying to think of the answer, go with what makes the most sense and roll with it. Just edit the article to say that we aren't really sure what she is (which you probably have, but just let it go). ~ Paladine 10:56, 18 October 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.115.84.193 (talk)

It was capcom that initially did the change, Nintendo took it a step further and just replaced her and Roxy with Billy and Sid. And you can't say "we don't know which it is" when even recent sources point out she's really a man (even SvC Card Fighters DS does it! As well as everything else, jeez) Long story short, it's japan: they do that stuff all the time. Oh, side note: newhalf = men with female figures and breasts from birth.--Kung Fu Man 15:09, 18 October 2007 (UTC)


- The "All About Capcom" book mentions the newhalf thing. I don't know if even Capcom knows if she is or isn't, though. Evan1975 08:04, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

--As far as the Japanese Mega CD version is concerned, Poison is indeed a man or newhalf. [1] The Super Famicom version features the same stamement about Poison and Roxy, but don't quote me on that. Jonny2x4 01:33, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Giant contradiction.

The alleged phone call from capcom USA to Japan (Besides being unsourced) makes no sense, as if the change to "newhalfs" is true, then the Billy and Sid replacements wouldn't be necessary. Since the enemies were actually changed, I'll assume that the first part is incorrect, and remove that part. If anyone disagrees, bring it up here, or cite an official source before reverting. -- Digital Watches! 01:34, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

  • Well, there's you reference link, have a good read on the subject.--Kung Fu Man 15:25, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] CVG Assessment

This is in regards to the request for assessment on the CVG Assessment page. I have rated this article as B-class, with a few recommendations for improvement- There are quite a few instances of unencyclopedic tone and weasel words sprinkled throuhgout this article that need cleaned up, though most of those need to be referenced as well. I haven't looked at the PR for this article, but I hope it's going well. Oh, and depending on who you get at GA, the "In-universe" part of the infobox might be frowned upon, though at least it's toned down and out of the article itself. Great job on improving this since I last came upon it! --PresN 05:56, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Notability

See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games#Notable? for a discussion about this article's notability (or lack thereof). Kariteh (talk) 14:23, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Needs improvement

I've put some improvement templates on the article, as it needs more third-party sources and should not use forum posts as sources. More information about the character's creation and the designer's influences. Cheers. Kariteh (talk) 08:22, 29 April 2008 (UTC)