Talk:Poetic Edda

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Contents 1 Help with fix? 2 Coordination 3 Rearrangement 4 Changes 5 Article move 6 Tolkien 7 Wikiquote 8 Lay

[edit] Help with fix?

Hmmm. It seems in adding a single sentence I somehow screwed the whole thing up. Sorry. Can someone help me fix this? -R. fiend

Fixed. Any idea how that happened? Is it a problem with your browser? —No-One Jones 15:45, 21 Apr 2004 (UTC)

No idea. Whenever anything out of the ordinary happens i tend to blame the fact that i use a mac and the rest of the world seems to use PC's. Could be the browser too, I really can't say. I just didn't want anyone to think it was vandalism. Thanx for fixing it though. -R. fiend

[edit] Coordination

I coordinated the spelling of the poems' titles. I don't think I've broken any links, but if so I apologise. Io 21:52, 25 May 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Rearrangement

Rearranged, expanded and cleared up a bit. Io 17:44, 26 May 2004 (UTC)

Added a few sentences. Since I seem to keep coming back to this page, I won't bother with recording every edit on the talk page. See the history page for those. Io 12:28, 28 May 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Changes

I changed

Reginsmál (also known as the list of Rig)

to

Reginsmál (also known as the "Treachery of Reginn").

The word "list" seems to originate in a Scandinavian language, not English. Io 14:18, 28 May 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Article move

 
I moved the article from Elder Edda to Poetic Edda because Poetic Edda appears to be far more common in English today than Elder Edda. Google provides 15,600 hits for Poetic Edda but only 8,130 for "Elder Edda" which confirms what I have observed in print. (I would personally prefer Eddic poems as the article title, as yet farther removed from the erroneous titles Elder Edda and Poetic Edda and would not be surprised if in the future Eddic poems became the normal term. But it is not Wikipedia's place to lead in such matters.)

The normalization of the titles of the poems may be controversial. They are the forms used in the two most commonly available current secondary English sources on Norse mythology, both of which are excellent secondary sources. They provide, I think, a reasonable compromise in English between the totally anglicized forms which appear as the titles for some Wikipedia articles and the full Norse forms used for other articles.

I intend gradually, unless there is opposition, to replace the titles of articles with these forms where they currently differ. Some current forms are even internally inconsistant, such as Grimnismál rather than fully anglicized Grimnismal or Lindow-Orchard (and genuine Old Norse) Grímnismál. Of course each article, where this is not the case at the moment, should also be the target of a redirects from both fully anglicized forms (with no diacritics) and from full Old Norse forms.

I have provided up to three translations for each poem title as a compromise between 1) selecting one single translation and 2) attempting to provide every English translation ever used. Jallan 14:54, 1 Jan 2005 (UTC)

If I may please inquire, when was it first translated into another language (Danish, English, or German, for example)? --Anglius 04:53, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

The first English translation of a substantial portion is: Cottle, A. S. (Trans.). (1797). Icelandic Poetry or the Edda of Saemund. Bristol: N. Biggs. (http://www.northvegr.org/lore/poetic3/index.php) It, I think, was made from a previous Latin translation. Haukurth 18:17, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I thank you for your information, sir. --Anglius 18:31, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Tolkien

Just curious: do we really need to have the Tolkien bit in the references? I believe that I added it simply because of the paragraph I put in about the dwarves' names, so (in my eyes) there's not really a reason to keep it in the references. Nyttend 03:24, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikiquote

Need a link to a good wikiquote page. --Mathiastck 19:36, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

There is none. --Gwern (contribs) 21:40 15 December 2006 (GMT)

[edit] Lay

The word "lay", frequently used in this article, is used here in a sense that does not appear in the lay disambiguation page. Can it be added there? Michael Hardy 14:50, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

...unless it's the same as lai, in which case it should link there. Michael Hardy 14:52, 29 July 2007 (UTC)