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[edit] Chronology of the ancient Near East needs footnotes
Welcome to Wikipedia. I appreciate your work on Chronology of the ancient Near East. Could I ask you to please footnote your work?? The editors and readers need to be able to link back a qualified published reference. See Wikipedia:Verifiability and Wikipedia:Footnotes for more details. Thanks, and welcome! MapMaster (talk) 16:44, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Kings pages categories
Hi Ploversegg,
I don't know of any standard formats for kings' pages, but the only category you really need for a king's page is xxx kings/xxx people/xxx rulers, whichever there is for that group. These sub-categories are including in all the larger categories, so including larger categories such as Ancient Near East is not necessary. (And if every single article were included in that big category, it would become sort of unnavigable.) And perhaps you could also create some sort of subpage in the Chronology category for the ANE chronology stuff, because that covers a lot of ground as well (although that's not really my field).
Sumerophile (talk) 18:44, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Query about the Old Assyrian kingdom.
Ploversegg, do you have any information about the Old Assyrian kingdom (Shamshi-Adad I et al)? I notice you haven't edited the Kings of Assyria page and that's the only list of OA kings I can find. Blueberrybuttermilkpancakes (talk) 02:23, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
I'm also confused about the Assyrian Middle kingdom on the Chronology page because I can't find Tiglath-Pileser I. Maybe I'm missing something?... Blueberrybuttermilkpancakes (talk) 03:03, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
Well, information on early Assyrian chronlogy is pretty sketchy. For example, Shamshi-Adad I wasn't even Assyrian. He was an Amorite who built a nice but short empire in the area (including Mari) and Ashur was became a vassal state of that. Then the Assyrians co-opted him into their king list. So ... thats why it's not in the Chronology article, which is designed for stuff with firm attestation. A non-wiki site which does a fair job of covering that is
http://www.historyfiles.co.uk/MainListsMiddleEast.htm
at least they are pretty good at ruler order etc.
As for Tiglath-Pileser I, he falls into the iffy "dark ages" between the Middle Assyrian and Neo-Assyrian kindoms where chrono data is almost as sketchy as for the Old Assyrian rulers. The wiki page for him Tiglath-Pileser I, has some stuff which "may" be right, we just don't know for sure. Ploversegg (talk) 18:03, 5 May 2008 (UTC)ploversegg
- If you have a chance, could you take a look at the "Assyria" section of the ANE portal topics page[1], and check the dates, and add any more notable rulers, if there are any? Blueberrybuttermilkpancakes (talk) 03:26, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
I left some comments on the portal discussion page todo list btw. Ploversegg (talk) 15:45, 8 May 2008 (UTC)ploversegg
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[edit] Chronology of the Ancient Near East
There was some discussion that the Chronology of the ancient Near East needed to be returned to its planned purpose as dealing with the short vs long etc controversies of ANE chronology and splitting of the dynasty ruler stuff to some sort of timeline article. Can we come to some sort of resolution/decision on the future of the article so I can continue to work on it?
I'm fine with whatever but the uncertainty makes it difficult to know how to proceed. As I understand it the choices are
- Leave things the way they are
- Rename Chronology of the Ancient Near East to, say, Timeline of the
Ancient Near East and revert the CANE to what is was before I started working on it and start from there
- Split off part of CANE into a new article, say Timeline of the ANE
and leave part in the old article.
- Something Else
Am going to drop this note is several places, including my talk page Ploversegg (talk) 18:28, 29 May 2008 (UTC)ploversegg
