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Contents 1 Your edit to American Idol 2 Unspecified source for Image:Hmpulham.jpg 3 Film infoboxes 4 Dab request 5 Image copyright problem with Image:ANNIV.jpg 6 Western genre 7 VA project talk page archiving 8 WP:Films Welcome 9 Welcome to WP:Biography 10 Great minds think alike ... 11 Orphaned fair use image (Image:Magnificentsevenride.gif) 12 Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Visual arts 13 WikiProject Visual arts How to Help 14 Invitation to join WikiProject Graffiti 15 Helping out with the Unassessed Wikipedia Biographies 16 Altichiero 17 Articles you might like to edit, from SuggestBot 18 Visual arts template 19 Wikiproject Biography March 2007 Newsletter 20 WikiProject Films February Newsletter 21 Visual Arts Bot Tagging 22 Barnstar 23 Visual arts portal 24 Thanks and here's some more 25 Visual arts portal 26 'Bot stub-sorting 27 D'oh! 28 Display problem 29 Selected quote 30 Cookies and barnstars, oh my! 31 Thanks for fixing up my cookie! 32 Portal 33 Thank you 34 Carducci 35 Thought you might be interested... 36 DYK 37 Question on @Road entry 38 March WP:FILMS Newsletter 39 On Giovanni da Milano 40 Thanks!! 41 The WikiProject Biography Newsletter: Issue II - April 2007 42 April 2007 WP:FILMS Newsletter 43 Image:Reply to Red.jpg 44 Thriller 45 May 2007 WP:FILMS Newsletter 46 June 2007 WP:FILMS Newsletter 47 Orphaned non-free image (Image:Hotpursuit.jpg) 48 July 2007 WP:FILMS Newsletter 49 August 2007 WP:FILMS Newsletter 50 WikiProject Films roll call 51 Fair use disputed for Image:ANNIV.jpg 52 Fair use disputed for Image:Hotcarscoldfacts.gif 53 Fair use disputed for Image:Hotelberlin.jpg 54 Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Hangyourdog.jpg 55 Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Helterskelter.jpg 56 Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Feellikedancin.jpg 57 Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Magnificentsevenride.jpg 58 Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Hurricanestreets.jpg 59 Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Hype.jpg 60 Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Hallucinationgeneration.gif 61 Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Hannibal 2006film.jpg 62 Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Hardhunted.jpg 63 Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Hardticket.jpg 64 WikiProject Films September 2007 Newsletter 65 WikiProject Biography Newsletter 5 66 Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Prosperosbooks.jpg 67 Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Alivelectriccover.jpg 68 Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Homeboy.jpg 69 Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Harvestofshame.jpg 70 Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Heartland.jpg 71 Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Heartsoffire.jpg 72 Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Houseofhimiko.jpg 73 Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Howigotintocollege.jpg 74 Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Howtheygetthere.jpg 75 Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Heldforransom.jpg 76 Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Huevosdeoro.jpg 77 Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Hellfighters.jpg 78 Disputed fair use rationale for Image:H2o.jpg 79 Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Goodtogo.jpg 80 Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Highwaytohell.jpg 81 Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Highwidehandsome.jpg 82 Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Hiline.jpg 83 Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Hmpulham.jpg

Your edit to American Idol

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Unspecified source for Image:Hmpulham.jpg

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Source info added. Planetneutral 04:43, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Film infoboxes

Nice work knocking=off the H's so quickly, I'm still trundling through G a bit at a time :-) Regards. Trebor 07:35, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Ah, good find, I did a quick search and couldn't get anything. Thanks. Trebor 13:11, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Dab request

Hi, I come to you for your dab interests. Beautiful Girl is supposed to be a film article. However it took a big number of aditors to make it into a dab page that doesn't lead anywhere. I was just doing a round adding infoboxes. Could you please fix somehow the page, so I can put an infobox? Hoverfish Talk 19:24, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Well, there are a few options.

1. I (or you) simply remove the songs and proceed to make it a film article.
2. We make a separate Beautiful Girl (film) page and link to it from Beautiful Girl.
3. We create Beautiful Girl (disambiguation) and move the songs over there along with a link back to Beautiful Girl, which itself gets something like
   For other uses, see Beautiful Girl.
   .

Since there are a number of significant artists with songs by that title (adding Bing Crosby and George Harrison to those already listed), there's a good chance that someday an actual article will turn up on at least one of them. Since this was not a particularly significant film, I think letting people get to the article via a dab page is perfectly fine. So my suggestion is to go with option #2. It will leave, admittedly, a pretty weak dab page at this point, but I think in the long run, it will require the least reworking.

Let me know what you think.Planetneutral 19:55, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

It makes sense. I'll pick the 2nd opinon. Thanks for explaining. Hoverfish Talk 20:19, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with Image:ANNIV.jpg

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This has been addressed. I really thought I'd added it, but never double-checked. Planetneutral 11:50, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Western genre

My inclination is to break out literature & movies, with a disambig page or header. I think the 2 are important enough to be dealt with separately. Ditto Western comics. Disagree? Trekphiler 08:57, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

I frankly had no idea breaking the two would entail so much work. Given that, I'd say subdivide the page more strongly, add material on novels, & leave it alone. As for Western comics, I'm not going to try writing it, but from what I know of the subject, I'd say it definitely deserves more attention than it's getting. Trekphiler 12:56, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm satisfied to leave it as is. If somebody gets ambitious, more power to 'em, but I can't keep up with what I'm watching (off & on) now.... Trekphiler 13:24, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

VA project talk page archiving

Hi, You're quite right to archive it, & thanks for that, but I wonder if the section about categorising re Materials/genres with User:Renice etc should be held on the page a bit longer? It is mentioned as a "To do" item in the box at the top & the discussion, like so many in WP, just seemed to be getting somewhere when it just stopped. All the best, Johnbod 03:16, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

(copied from mine)Ok - that would be a good idea (revive & link). It's not a discussion I got much involved with, but it is an important one for sorting out the categories. User:Renice (very much a print person) has not been around the VA area much since about then, which is a great pity. But I hope she will return - she's said she will.

On Altdorfer, as very often, I could not find a decent print image - there is one clear print image for every hundred good ones of paintings on Commons, as I'm sure you know. Not all of his would work well small - the woodcut Christ & St Christopher would be ideal, but I could not find a decent one online. Cheers Johnbod 04:30, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

WP:Films Welcome

Welcome to WP:Biography

Great minds think alike ...

... and fools seldom differ. Synchronicity for the win. :-) Chris cheese whine 03:28, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Visual arts

Please post to and watchlist the above as a central notice board. Tyrenius 01:25, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Yup, just noticed that you were doing that. Appreciate the help and sorry for the negligence on my part. It's good to know that someone is actually paying attention to the WP. It's been pretty darn quiet. Planetneutral 01:27, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Visual arts How to Help

Hi Sparkit. Definitely liked your improvements to the How to Help section. I've been working on a restructuring of the same area in my sandbox and was wondering if you thought I was heading a good direction or not. It's clearly a work in progress and I'd like to incorporate the type of broad headings that you introduced. I just want to know if it's worth continued effort or not. Thanks. Planetneutral 17:20, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Hi Planetneutral! I like what you're doing with the "how to help" thing in your sandbox! This morning I started out updating this, Wikipedia:WikiProject Visual arts/Art Manual of Style, but got distracted by the "how to help" section of the visual arts project page and decided to clean it up. I think what you're doing and what I've done could easily be combined, and I encourage you to go for it on the project page. What do you think about a little template for editors with links to the help/howto articles relevant to editing visual arts pages? Something to put on one's user page or sandbox? >>sparkit|TALK<< 17:58, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the positive feedback. I agree that combining the approaches is very much possible. I think the template you mentioned has potential. My concern is that we haven't really developed the underlying project-specific resources that would be great to include (the Art Manual of Style is a perfect example). That said, I'm all for promoting this project and enabling participation in whatever way possible. Planetneutral 18:22, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Good point! :) I may revisit that art manual of style some more. Most all the style information is scattered about in other help/howto articles, and I think pointers to them might be the way to go. >>sparkit|TALK<< 18:52, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Mind taking a look at the attempted merger, before I move it to the live page? Cheers. Planetneutral 19:34, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Oooooooo! I like where this is going! Is it OK with you if I edit in your sandbox? Many thanks! >>sparkit|TALK<< 19:43, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Absolutely. I appreciate the enthusiasm. Planetneutral 19:44, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

I added a link for the portal's "did you know" section, and made some minor edits. Go for it, my friend! >>sparkit|TALK<< 19:58, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Done. Thanks for your help! Now I need to think about what to do with that larger projects section. Just doesn't do it for me as is. Any thoughts? Planetneutral 20:07, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

You betcha, thank you! I added a bit about going to the talk page for help. I remember how lost I felt when I first started editing wikipedia.

Probably "Sub-projects" would be a more descriptive title. The categorizing thing has been a scattered effort, and seems to working OK at the moment. Moving images to commons was just a fleeting idea I had one day. I'd much rather see all the artists whose work is on commons with the commons link on their pages - a monumental task.

Anyhow, at the moment I'm thinking about chunking things down into sub-projects like:

• Manual of style
• Templatizing
• Categories - if it's still appropriate
• Portal maintenance
• Open tasks maintenance

that sort of thing. Though, only manual of style and templatizing seem viable at the moment, the others are just examples of could-be.

>>sparkit|TALK<< 20:20, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Invitation to join WikiProject Graffiti

Regards, Dfrg.msc 07:44, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Helping out with the Unassessed Wikipedia Biographies

Seeing that you are an active member of the WikiBiography Project, I was wondering if you would help lend a hand in helping us clear out the amount of [unassessed articles] tagged with {{WPBiography}}. Many of them are of stub and start class, but a few are of B or A caliber. Getting a simple assessment rating can help us start moving many of these biographies to a higher quality article. Thank you! --Ozgod 21:45, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Altichiero

I don't remember... I've no problem, I'm ignorant in the field. Bye and good work. --Attilios 01:08, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

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Visual arts template

Hi Sparkit. I saw that you shrunk the image on the WPVA template. It's awfully small. Makes ir pretty difficult to even tell what it is. Might we meet somewhere in the middle?

If we're going to shrink the image, I'd suggest we also shrink the text size, so they are in better balance. This would also serve the purpose of making the template smaller, which I imagine was at least part of your intention by shrinking the image.

So glad to see someone interested in the template! Cheers. Planetneutral 15:41, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Yep, my intent was to reduce the vertical size. The image definitely doesn't have enough contrast at that small size. A little bigger would work better for recognizing that image. When I did it I started wondering if we had another more iconic image we could use for that. Maybe the same one as the Visual arts portal? Though that's so painting oriented, and visual arts isn't just about painting. [>>sparkit|TALK<<] 18:03, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

That's funny, 'cause just last night I was thinking of how much I disliked the image on the Visual arts portal and was thinking of changing it to the sunflowers. I'm certainly open to change on both fronts. Planetneutral 18:58, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Maybe we could discuss on the portal or project page? The palette icon doesn't work very well for me either. How's about an image of an eyeball? Artfully done, of course. It would lend an implication of "visual". [>>sparkit|TALK<<] 19:24, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Wikiproject Biography March 2007 Newsletter

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WikiProject Films February Newsletter

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Visual Arts Bot Tagging

I'd be willing to complete the tagging for you (you requested it here). I notice that you've updated the template. Could you post on my talk page confirming that you do indeed want the pages tagged and giving me the exact syntax my bot should add? Cheers! alphachimp 01:17, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

By the time you get this, my bot should be done tagging the articles you requested. Want anything else tagged? alphachimp 07:39, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Barnstar

Here is something for you as a thank you for your swift reaction. I hope you are able to "control" the bot. regards -Angelbo 21:25, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Visual arts portal

I love, absolutely love, what you're doing with the visual arts portal! I had no idea that randomizer was available. What a marvelous idea and thanks to your work (or is it play ;) ) the portal has a better chance of staying fresh. Many thanks. --sparkit^TALK 21:28, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks and here's some more

Thanks for starting to remove that odd tag to the visual arts project that Alphachimpbot added--a bot gone astray? Much as I like visual arts, and breeding horses may well be an art, nonetheless the color of horses is genetics, not WPVA, I suspect! <grin> Anyway, there are more articles on horse colors and markings that got hit by the bot. Here's the list of all on my watchlist...you got several, there's more. Thanks Montanabw 03:13, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

. mb Talk:Roan (color)‎; 03:01 . . (+29) . . Alphachimpbot (Talk | contribs) (BOT - adding adding WPVA banner)

(diff) (hist) . . Nmb Talk:Rabicano‎; 02:59 . . (+27) . . Alphachimpbot (Talk | contribs) (BOT - adding adding WPVA banner)

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(diff) (hist) . . Nmb Talk:Overo‎; 02:52 . . (+27) . . Alphachimpbot (Talk | contribs) (BOT - adding adding WPVA banner)

(diff) (hist) . . mb Talk:Horse markings‎; 02:29 . . (+29) . . Alphachimpbot (Talk | contribs) (BOT - adding adding WPVA banner)

(diff) (hist) . . Nmb Talk:Grullo‎; 02:25 . . (+27) . . Alphachimpbot (Talk | contribs) (BOT - adding adding WPVA banner)

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(diff) (hist) . . Nmb Talk:Cremello‎; 02:10 . . (+27) . . Alphachimpbot (Talk | contribs) (BOT - adding adding WPVA banner)

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Visual arts portal

I should have asked for review sooner! Thanks for your quick response and instant improvements. Planetneutral 04:45, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Oh, it was nothing...just some aesthetics. :D The portal right now looks very nice. I'll try to give a review by next week. Hopefully you'll get good reviews from other Wikipedians by then as well! Great work and happy editing, S.D. 04:50, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

'Bot stub-sorting

You're right, and that's certainly what I would have done by hand. However, the 'bot is currently only set up to do restubbings by "batch", making a fixed set of changes on each run. Now admittedly, I could have made additional runs to sort to the more specific type, had I thought of it at the time... Alai 23:17, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

D'oh!

Gosh, I would have sworn that I'd gone through and changed all four rotating sections footers to match. Must have just previewed and forgot to save. I do that WAY too often. Thanks for cleaning up my messes. Planetneutral 14:53, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm certain that you did! I changed a bit of the code and decided to match the sections. :) Again, I love what you've done with this portal - a few more tweaks and some more rotating content and it'll be featured... no doubt. The quotation section - well, I'm not fond of yet another box within all the boxes and the small type. Not a big deal, but I'm playing with some ideas here, User:Sparkit/sandbox/templates. Not what I'm after yet but maybe more play on it later.

Keep this up and you'll get hit with some barnstars! --sparkit^TALK 15:16, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Oh, OK, I guess I'm not quite as crazy as I'd thought. Good to know. I'm definitely open to different displays for the selected quotation, so I'll keep an eye on your sandbox page. Nice to have someone with an artistic eye involved! Planetneutral 15:21, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, this templating stuff is certainly crazy-making! I boldly went ahead an implemented my quote layout idea, and added a Duchamp quote. Thanks! --sparkit^TALK 16:30, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Strangely, running IE7 on Vista, the More selected quotations link is white and therefore invisible on the main portal page. Doesn't happen on Firefox. Wonder why that would be? Can't really dig into it now, but I'll look tonight. Planetneutral 18:01, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

I may have fixed that by adding style="background-color:transparent;". The text had a white background on Firefox/Mac, but the text itself was blue/purple, but now it's the same as the background. --sparkit^TALK 18:24, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Display problem

Something about the changes made today has resulted in a break of the portal's display in IE6, such that the right column is pushed down below the end of the left column. It was working as of the end of last night. Too much was done today beyond my limited understanding to have any hope of fixing it, so I'm hoping you can. Cheers, Planetneutral 02:24, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Ugh. I'll roll 'em back and let you know the specific problems in firefox/mac. the code will be more familiar to you that way. I don't have Windoze to look at the probs. --sparkit^TALK 02:40, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I tried some 'rolling back' in an isolated fashion, but it may be that all three sections now share some attribute that's flummoxing the whole deal. I check IE every once in a while for exactly this reason. Hope it solves the issue.

I'm working on some of the other suggested tweaks. While I hesitate to sacrifice originality and style for the sake of consistency (and really recoil at the use of quote in place of quotation), I'm pretty sure we'll lose those fights at the FPC level anyway. And really, the goal is to draw attention to visual arts on Wikipedia, so I want that FP status badly. Major increase in the number of eyes on the portal. Planetneutral 02:47, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

I rolled them back to last night. It'll be easier that way I think. As far as the FPC thing goes, how's about submitting it the way you, or we, like it, and if a case can't be made for the originality, then change it? --sparkit^TALK 02:55, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

I got it!!!!!!!! Something about moving the Did you know section into the right column (or moving the things you can do to the bottom) broke it. Switch 'em back and presto. Kind of a bummer as I liked it better the other way, but I'd rather have it working. Planetneutral 04:41, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Wow! that's really weird, but I've seen bugs like this before. I'm suspicious of the div tags and floating... seems I recall reading that IE doesn't handle them the same as mozilla.

I've been thinking about visual art content... I just don't remember coming across very many articles that are "GA" status. And I glanced at the bureaucracy surrounding that today. Ugh! --sparkit^TALK 04:54, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Yup, having the same problem. Many of the GA articles are unimpressive. Bios are no problem.

I added a suggestion area for each of the rotating sections. I'm working on DYK right now. Of course, I should be heading off to bed... Planetneutral 04:58, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Is there a way that you can introduce a line of white space between the bottom of the {{{text}}} and the footer material in the rotating sections? I can't figure it out and my brain is fading fast~ Thanks for the help. Planetneutral 05:16, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

break tags are the easiest. I did it for the Portal:Visual arts/Selected article/Layout. See if that's what you're after. And get some rest! :)

I'd like to see a little more white space at the above the items, like right about the first line, but I won't fiddle with that now. --sparkit^TALK 05:28, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

That might be too far in the opposite direction ('cause I'm not at all picky). Maybe a single break tag is enough? Planetneutral 05:31, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

OK. Let's try one. :) I made the change. --sparkit^TALK 05:41, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

It's true that a number of them aren't addressing it. Here's some that seem to: Portal:Dogs, Portal:Electronics and Portal:Literature. I'm not seeing any difference on the basis of that line height attribute in Firefox or IE.

I'm OK with moving the picture, although it does make it pretty rigid and boxy on the left. Seems to work on the whole. Planetneutral 14:15, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

The dog portal is using a common box footer template, placed on the portal main page. I tried it with visual arts just now and it messed up he page layout. Didn't save it. --sparkit^TALK 14:46, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Are you sure? That's not what I'm seeing for the random components (which is where the issue is, right?). It looks like they are using the layout that I started with.

{| class="noprint" width="100%"  border="0" style="padding: 0; 
margin: 0; background-color:transparent"
|-
|<div style="text-align:left;">'''[[Portal:Dogs/Selected article|...Archive/Nominations]]'''</div>||
 <div style="text-align:right;margin-right:10px;margin-bottom:4px;">
'''[[{{{link}}}|Read more...]]'''
 </div >
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Is there a compelling reason not to just use that? Planetneutral 15:06, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Yep, that's what it looks like now that I look closer that box-footer is included in the rotating template. The most compelling reason not to use that is that "...archive" and "...read more" links using the div tags will overlap tall images on the archive pages. --sparkit^TALK 15:14, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Also, the {{tl:Random portal component}} uses {{tl:Portal:box-footer}} which is not adjustable by us unless we want to change all the wikiportals that use it. Which explains why we see a difference in the components we're using that don't use the random thing (DYK). Dunno where to go on this from here. --sparkit^TALK 15:41, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

I had to do some pretty drastic things, but I have everything working, including eliminating the white quotations link in IE7. Did not like having to 'undo' so much tweaking, but things are about as they should be now across browsers. In an ideal world, getting rid of the white space under the footer links would be desirable, but I really don't want to play and have to do this all again, as it's been a real energy drain/distraction from focusing on the content of the page. So I recommend we be pretty cautious (not dormant, just careful) from here as far as box format tweaking is concerned. Planetneutral 18:51, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for doing that. The problem with the "more" links overlapping some of the images in the article and bio archives has returned. If you're not seeing it in firefox/win, it must be a firefox/mac-specific problem.

The whole exercise has been a drain/distraction to me as well, but I must say that I know alot more now about the arcane bits of portal code. --sparkit^TALK 19:29, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Selected quote

Not always! - you got me just at the right time. However looking at what links here, there are a number of other pages with quotion instead of quote. However, I think you should be able to move these yourself with the move button (you have got one, I think) - not cut and paste though, but you may know that. If you need any more assistance, let me know. Keep up the good work! Tyrenius 00:20, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

The quote selection is a new one on me. I'm wondering why they aren't all on one page for easy access? Also, if you don't do it already, I'd recommend Wikiquote. They seem a bit deficient on (contemporary) visual art there. I added Tracey Emin for example. Then there's a special box on Wikiquote to link to the Wikipedia article and vice versa. It would be good to promote this on the portal. Tyrenius 00:28, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

I got a bit muddled there - I was meaning the Visual Arts project! However, I see the portal has links to other projects, so the Artists category on Wikiquote might be valid. Tyrenius 00:33, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

OK, thanks for info. Just doing a bit on wikiquote right now (same user name). Tyrenius 00:45, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Cookies and barnstars, oh my!

Oooooooo! Thanks for the cookie! Yum.

But you! I think you need a barnstar for driving the whole project!

		The Barnstar of High Culture
		For Planetneutral for driving the Visual arts portal to featuredom, whilst maintaining humor and sanity! --sparkitTALK

I'm sorry to see that label/title/header style go. Something to think about later, perhaps. --sparkit^TALK 01:26, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing up my cookie!

Cookie looks much happier now! --sparkit^TALK 05:58, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Portal

Hello, thanks for the oppertity to review the portal. Everything looks great, I have added my support for featured. Keep up the good work.Cheers — WilsBadKarma ^(Talk) 19:25, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

• Portal:Library and information science looks really cool. Couldn't there be a way to move that right-hand column up into the empty space though? Smee 04:22, 13 March 2007 (UTC).

Thank you

Many thanks for the little touches (recatting, spelling corrections) on mat (picture framing) and fillet (picture framing). Both helped, though I'm particularly grateful for the spelling corrections, which were somewhat embarrassing. ^^;; Runa27 15:24, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Carducci

Have a google search for "Bartolomeo Carducci" and you'll have plenty of sources. I think, English sources are not so much reliable for Italian old matters, as they simply copy each other. "Bartolommeo" is in fact a typical old-fashioned typo from English sources, as both in Italian and in Latin the name as a single "m" (Bartolomeo and Bartolomeus). Bye and good work. --Attilios 19:35, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

If I may butt in, and ignoring A's usual tendency to blame everything on the English, I think he is right on this one: Bartolomé Carducho gets 442 English lang ghits (including accentless e's), & the Italian 27,200. Scholar 44 to 131. I notice the Spanish WP use the Italian, & the Germans the Spanish - go figure! I think it's the first time I've had an issue with the Getty Index. I noticed on Jusepe de Ribera that the US tended, like the Spanish, tended to use José, whereas he & everybody else uses Jusepe. Johnbod 19:49, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Thought you might be interested...

...to know that an editor reversed your page move of Constantin_Brâncuşi without providing a counter-logic for doing so. Planetneutral ^talk 19:19, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

I saw it when it happened and chose not to fight that battle. :) The edit summary of the move, to the spelling that no one will search for, said "not a policy". As it turns out the page I though was policy was a proposed-but-failed policy and no one had marked it as such (it's now marked). However, it confuses me in light of all the other naming convention pages which prescribe "use English." I guess all the libraries and museums in the English speaking world have been spelling it wrong for decades. It's confusing other folks, too. See the bottom of Talk: Constantin_Brâncuşi. --sparkit^TALK 00:02, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

DYK

On 23 March 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Indiana Department of Natural Resources, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

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Question on @Road entry

Planetneutral -

I noticed you were a fellow Illini alum, so I thought I would ask you for some advice on Wikipedia.

I tried to get a link under GPS Tracking to our company, GPS Insight. It was summarily deleted as spam, although it was roughly similar to several other company references. I see that you recently edited the @Road entry.

I am curious, if I want people to be able to see some of the things we're doing with GPS Tracking, and want a reference under the Wikipedia, what is my best approach?

I am curious why you maintain the @Road page, as well -- do you work there by chance?

I appreciate your help -- thanks in advance.

Incidentally, this was the reference which I attempted to add:

• [GPS Insight]

Rdonat 04:21, 29 March 2007 (UTC) Rob Donat

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On Giovanni da Milano

No strong oppion on how it should be sorted. The danger of sorting along first names is that Giovanni & Giovanni Battista, Antonio, etc is by far the most common name in Italian. I'll go along with your choice of Giovanni since Milano is not a true surname.

Question is defaultsort or catsort preferred? CARAVAGGISTI 23:46, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

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Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Houseofhimiko.jpg

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Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Howigotintocollege.jpg

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Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Howtheygetthere.jpg

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Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Heldforransom.jpg

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Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Huevosdeoro.jpg

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Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Hellfighters.jpg

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Disputed fair use rationale for Image:H2o.jpg

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Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Goodtogo.jpg

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Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Highwaytohell.jpg

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Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Highwidehandsome.jpg

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Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Hiline.jpg

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Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Hmpulham.jpg

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