User talk:Plafond

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[edit] Welcome!

Hello, Plafond! Welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions to this free encyclopedia. If you decide that you need help, check out Getting Help below, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and ask your question there. Please remember to sign your name on talk pages by clicking or using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your username and the date. Finally, please do your best to always fill in the edit summary field. Below are some useful links to facilitate your involvement. Happy editing! Gimme danger (talk) 17:56, 28 May 2008 (UTC) Getting started A tutorial • Our five pillars • Getting mentored How to: edit a page • upload and use images Getting help Frequently asked questions • Tips Where to ask questions or make comments Request administrator attention Policies and guidelines Neutral point of view • No original research Verifiability • Reliable sources • Citing sources What Wikipedia is not • Biographies of living persons Manual of Style • Three-revert rule • Sock puppetry Copyrights • Policy for non-free content • Image use policy External links • Spam • Vandalism Deletion policy • Conflict of interest • Notability The community Build consensus • Resolve disputes Assume good faith • Civility • Etiquette No personal attacks • No legal threats Community Portal • Village pump Signpost • IRC channels • Mailing lists Writing articles Be bold in editing • Develop an article The perfect article • Manual of style Stubs • Categories • Disambiguation Pages needing attention • Peer review Miscellaneous User name • User pages • Talk pages Clean up: General - Spam - Vandalism Join a WikiProject • Translation Useful templates • Tools • User scripts

[edit] Remember the edit summary

Hi there. When editing an article on Wikipedia there is a small field labeled "Edit summary" under the main edit-box. It looks like this:

The text written here will appear on the Recent changes page, in the page revision history, on the diff page, and in the watchlists of users who are watching that article. See m:Help:Edit summary for full information on this feature.

Filling in the edit summary field greatly helps your fellow contributors in understanding what you changed, so please always fill in the edit summary field. If you are adding a section, please do not just keep the previous section's header in the Edit summary field - please fill in your new section's name instead. Thank you. –Fred Bradstadt (talk) 14:34, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 2008 Orange Warsaw Open - Singles

Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but your recent edit removed maintenance templates from Wikipedia. When removing maintenance templates, please be sure to either resolve the problem that the template refers to, or give a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry, as your removal of this template has been reverted. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia, and if you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Erechtheus (talk) 19:47, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Take a look at WP:PRIMARY, which indicates that articles should rely on reliable secondary sources. Understand I'm not suggesting we delete these articles because they rely on primary sources. I think the PDFs included certainly get them far enough for there to be an article. That's not really the standard we strive for, though. They'd be better and more useful articles by having reliable secondary sourcing. The maintenance template involved just serves as a notice so that anyone who knows of such sources and wants to add them can do so. Does that make sense? Erechtheus (talk) 20:53, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

I think the point you make is troubling to the future of the articles in question. If they simply regurgitate the contents of a PDF that could easily be linked from the primary source, why should these articles exist? They don't seem to fit in the project. Mind you, I'm not planning on taking any particular action. It seems to me that the issue is a bigger one than can be cleared up in one afternoon, too. Erechtheus (talk) 21:25, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Edit summaries

I recently noticed very few of your edits had edit summaries. Please remember to use edit summaries in future, as leaving a large ammount of edits with no edit summaries such as the ones you have made to 2008 French Open leaves editors to question what you have actually edited, and changes may be reverted without warnings. Not leaving edit summaries is considered bad practise, please consider this a formal warning. You may want to familiarise yourself with WP:EDITSUMMARY and change your preferences to alert you whenever you have left an edit summary blank. Thank you and happy editing, Metagraph comment 09:44, 8 June 2008 (UTC)