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This is the talk page of my inactive alternate account. Shalom Hello 13:37, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

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  • 1. Thank you for the compliment about the 'hard work and ingenuity' and I'm glad it made someone laugh.
  • 2. Why does it need deletion? It is a work in progress and I'm working on it from my userpage to present it to the company to make it a real website.

Come discuss this on the talk page. Citikiwi 05:33, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Really tearing it up, eh

So I've noticed your really tearing it up marking tons of CSD and Prod's on lots of pages. Very good but please don't make comments on the userpage like you did here. Thanks. MrMacMan Talk 04:57, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Point taken. It was a minor indiscretion. Placeholder account 04:58, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
Yeah certainly, just noticed it and wanted to bring it to your attention. Anyway I hope i meet the main account holder one day. :D MrMacMan Talk 05:02, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
I don't recognize you, but I'll give you a couple of hints. I live in New York City and I speak Hebrew (and I'm categorized as such), and I've edited since 2005. Cheers! Placeholder account 05:05, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

User Page

I had accidentally clicked on the user page links while welcoming new users... however for the most part I have been using the talk page to welcome users. Thanks DP 15:44, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Sockpuppet

Is this not a sockpuppet? -- Jac roe 17:38, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

It certainly is. As I explain on the userpage, the main reason for making it was to avoid having the "new messages" bar reappear when I edit anonymously. I have not edited abusively with this account, nor have I used it to vote on an issue where my main account has taken part. I will reveal my other account if an administrator asks. Placeholder account 17:41, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
Who Are You? Who who? Who who? -- Y not? 21:25, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
I see you took me up on the challenge. I am User:YechielMan. I created this account because officially I'm on wikibreak, but I want to hang around. It's also fun to be "anonymous" again, but if anyone needs to know, now you know. Placeholder account 21:29, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
Thank you, and sorry. -- Y not? 21:35, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
Don't apologize, I don't really care. WP is supposed to be fun, right? :) Placeholder account 21:47, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Edit to WP:FLY

Um, you added something fairly, well... WP:BEANS-ish, and left an edit summary of "In progress". You fishing for someone? ReviewCASCADIAHowl/Trail 22:11, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

I don't understand the question. At any rate, given that you raise the issue of WP:BEANS, I'll go ahead and remove it. No harm done. Placeholder account 22:15, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
By my question, I was wondering if it was a trap to lure a potential hacker... By your response, it appears it isn't. Thanks though. ReviewCASCADIAHowl/Trail 22:18, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
Oh, now I see what confused you. (smiles) Placeholder account 22:21, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Untravel guides

I'm going to close your MfD as delete, as I'm sure you expected it would be. User:Citikiwi has created material that, while occasionally funny, is also incredibly offensive and completely unrelated to the project (although many other userpages are harmless and kept in spite of the latter). I find it hard to assume good faith, though, since the user is obviously intelligent and is likely to be well aware of the difference between Wikipedia and Uncyclopedia. ˉˉanetode╦╩ 05:16, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Al Gordon

Hi! I undid your speedy delete proposal. The reason is that this article is on Al Gordon the comic book artist, the previously deleted article was on a different Al Gordon, a musician. I moved the article to Al Gordon (comic book artist) to avoid future confusion. If you still believe the article should be deleted on other grounds, you're welcome to try again. AfD with a post on Wikipedia:WikiProject Comics might be a better route than speedy delete. The article appeared legitimate. Notability, however questionable, seemed possible. Best, --Shirahadasha 16:59, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Hi, YechielMan! --Shirahadasha 17:05, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

ETs

Placeholder, making a single Userspace edit and receiving a quick response by a "placeholder account" (don't really know what that means) makes me...hmm, uncomfortable. It was an edit that ought to have gone unnoticed unless my edits are being trailed... I'm neither here nor there on "responsible socks", but I'd rather not deal with them until I know the primary user activating the account—my e-mail is enabled.

That said, thank you very much for your tip. As I was thinking about the potential article over a few cokes this evening (it could be a really interesting page) I thought it might be easier to start with "Christianity and Extraterrestrial life" because Google will provide me a page quickly. But that's lazy systemic bias. At a minimum, good sections on Judaism, Islam, and Hinduism need to be created before taking the page live. And then, of course, there's actual UFO religion, Scientology etc. that will need to be covered. Marskell 20:46, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Is there a specific page that shows new User pages like Special:Newpages for main space? I ought to know that, but don't. No worries, on the second account.
Anyhow, is there an electronic copy of the essay you mentioned? Marskell 22:03, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Bushy

I would like you to look again at Bushy and reconsider your vote. I have rewritten the article from scratch using reliable sources. Thanks! --Dhartung | Talk 09:44, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Oh so you found it.

Well I would, but you cheeted... I knew that someone would find that that way. If you could find it from a link on my page I will give you one. I'll give you a hint, it's on a subpage or archive.--Kkrouni 19:39, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

About your RfA

Hi, I stumbled on this account by accident. I saw your "RfA review" and couldn't help but comment. I agree that some comments on your ongoing RfA have been really harsh but aren't you taking all this a little too personally? About the RfA discussion, I am inclined to agree with Walton's comment that 2 joke edits don't mean anything in light of your other contributions. But there are other issues, no? You still are not totally convinced that those "joke" edits can categorically be called vandalism. How then would you deal with some newbie editor who makes similar edits (and I have seen a lot of supposedly clever "jokes" which I reverted as vandalism and gave a suitable warning)? Would you treat them like vandals? If so, isn't it a sort of elitism to want others to condone your joke edits because you are a more experienced editor?

But apart from this, I like your honesty and the fact that you came forward with all this of your own accord, when you could easily have started from scratch as a fresh account after your first RfA. I hope you won't be too disappointed by this RfA and please continue your good work. Cheers.

PS:I really hope you'll reconsider this RfA review of yours aimed at as a strong rebuke (as you stated on DGG's talk page). But of course it's your call. - TwoOars 19:58, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

I'm looking at it more like a request for comment, i.e. where do I go from here. But I think my case uncovers a systemic problem with RFA which needs to be addressed on a community level. "Keep working and come back in 6 months" is not okay if I'll be opposed for the same reasons as before in 6 months. Placeholder account 20:02, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
Yes, thats a problem that needs to be addressed. Also the being-harsh-towards-the-candidate bit. But I feel some of your actions can be seen as reckless and people might consider you too quick to react. I expect that this RfA review thing immediately after your RfA will draw sharp criticism. It is not a bad thing to fight for a good cause, but pick a proper time and choose your words. Being reactionary now will not help you in anyway, IMO. On a side note, I expect that Wikipedia will go the way of Lord of the Flies, so all this might not really be worth it. :) - TwoOars 20:11, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
And I read DGG's feedback too, just now and I totally agree with his suggestion to be conservative, and follow the mood. Just giving a little (what might not be considered) helpful advice. :) - TwoOars 20:15, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
speaking of which, you commented on the AfD for Jim Deacon, " Not really CSD because he's published, but so have a thousand other professors. Fails WP:PROF. "

You must not have noticed that the article began "All characters in the following programme are fictional, even the real ones. Their voices are impersonated, badly." -- and that the part that wasn't a joke was a copyviolation, as found by Seed 2.0. If the career were real, a full professor at a university is usually notable, if not, its a hoax, and if it's half a joke and half a copyvio you should have noticed both. DGG 04:02, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

{Smiling} All right, you got me. :) Once I saw that he could be deleted by the normal means I stopped looking for copyvio and such. Oy...with regard to speedy deletions, darned if I do, and darned if I don't! :) Placeholder account 04:07, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism subpage MfD

Hi,

Yep, I did notice what you, Y-man, said: however, since you commented supporting deletion, I didn't think it proper to consider the comment evidence for keeping! ;) I don't have a definite stand on these pages, generally; I hope that admins who have them have thought about the issue, and have good "keep" rationales in the back of their minds. Whatever those might be, they didn't appear at the MfD in question. I closed on the basis of the merits of the arguments present, and won't being going on a crusade against these things.

Oh, regarding your RfA... I wouldn't worry too much -- you're a likeable guy. :) Just remember to treat Wikipedia a little more like you would a job -- jokes are okay, but be very careful never to let them compromise the encyclopedia. Also, remember that PROD exists to delete the stuff that stinks, but doesn't fall under narrow CSDs. PROD gives folks a five-day window to whip bad content into shape -- this is good for everyone, while reading the CSDs liberally risks throwing out some unrefined gems in the dirt.

Keep those things in mind for the next three months, and I'll certainly support next time. Best wishes, Xoloz 04:21, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Just a reminder

When closing AfDs, always remember to add the template to the bottom of the discussion as well. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 05:05, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Oops! (Whacking forehead.) I can't believe I forgot that. Thanks for following up. :) Placeholder account 06:52, 5 June 2007 (UTC)