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[edit] Margaret Scott

I made the change regarding Margaret Scott, as this information is provided on Playboy's Official Website at: http://www.playboy.com/playmates/faq/

The FAQ and answer are:

Who has appeared the most times as a Playmate?

Margaret Scott and Janet Pilgrim each appeared as Playmates three times. Margaret was the Playmate in our February 1954, April 1954 and April 1955 issues (the latter two appearances were as Marilyn Waltz). Janet Pilgrim was the Playmate in July 1955, December 1955 and October 1956. The only other women who have appeared as Playmates more than once are Margie Harrison (January 1954 and June 1954) and Marguerite Empey (May 1955 and February 1956).

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[edit] First Photos of Pubic Hair?

There is a correction in the article saying the first example was in 1956 with Marguerite Empey underwater. This directly contradicts what Playboy says here (http://www.playboy.com/playmates/faq/milestones.html). However, at the same time I found on this site that seem to corroborate the correction (http://www.sprawl.it/playmate/50.php). I'm leaving it alone for now. I also corrected a few name errors becuase the original correction had Magaret Empey and Dianne Weber rather than Marguerite Empey and Diane Webber.

[edit] List of Playmates

I've made a list of centerfolds and wonder if there's interest in putting it up here. Two questions, though:

1) My source had no information for the March, 1955 issue. Was one printed with this date, and who was the centerfold?
2) Were the centerfolds called "Playmates of the Month" from the beginning, or was that term invented later?

So, should I put it up here? CFLeon 00:48, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

  • The list is already covered in the links at the bottom of the article: List_of_people_in_Playboy_1953-1959 and so on. March, 1955, had no centerfold because there was no issue for that month. Presumably Hef was on the ropes financially. As the article says, and the Playboy lore states, the first issue with MM in the center used the term "Sweetheart" and the term "Playmate" debuted the next month. Wahkeenah 00:58, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] First lesbian playmate?

The article lists Stephanie Adams as the first playmate to "come out" publically as a lesbian. But I remember that Rebekka Armstrong also had openly been in a lesbian relationship. Admittedly she later said she was a bisexual and married a man. And I can't find a cite for any of this other than when playmates talk about having sex with other women it's permamently stuck in my brain. MK2 02:42, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

In a December 1994 interview, Marina Baker, Miss March 1987, also claims to have had bisexual flings around the time of her centerfold. "First lesbian", like virtually anything to do with sexual orientation, is misleading because many Playmates have had lesbian experiences and lesbian tendencies in varying degrees. Stephanie Adams doesn't claim to be exclusively lesbian either. A more accurate term would be "First Playmate to live in a committed lesbian relationship".Ghosts&empties 16:43, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Until we get better documentation, I'm taking it out. MK2 20:54, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
Adams was the first playmate to come out as a lesbian in 2004, as sourced all over the internet, and is in fact the first playmate to become a LGBT spokesmodel and advocate in the LGBT community, as also sourced. But it's also currently sourced on the internet that she is no longer identifying herself as such. An-Apple-A-NY-Day (talk) 16:46, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Playmate vs PMOM

A Playmate is any model that appears in a nude photospread in the Magazine, or Special Edition, which is not what the article said, so it's been corrected. The PMOM is a special playmate of the issue.

This is completely inaccurate. According to Playboy and to Hef, only the centerfold aka Playmate of the Month is considered a "Playmate." Centerfold is exactly the same thing as Playmate. Women who pose in Playboy but who are not the centerfold are NOT Playmates, they are just Playboy models. Hef has talked about this many times, and Holly Madison explained all the exact definitions on their reality TV show. On the Playboy website, it says there have been 622 Playmates in total since the beginning. That equals about one for each issue of the magazine (some have been PM more than once, but some issues had more than one centerfold, so it equals out). If 'Playmate' covered every women who posed nude in the magazine and all the specials, it would obviously be way more than 1 model per issue. [1] It would probably be worth mentioning that there is a perception that all PB models are Playmates, and that the media sometimes refers to any PB model this way, but that the official term per Playboy only refers to the Playmate of the Month. 81.1.77.50 00:08, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Headshots and data sheets

For some one who has time, headshots (which appear to be fair use) can be obtained for each PMOM's article by googling site:http://www.perfect-models.com headshots . (Direct links are disabled.) Data sheet statistics are also available at this site.


[edit] Breasts list

It seems that the list List of Playboy Playmates with D-cup or larger breasts is on its way to deletion. Although this might not be sufficiently notable to merit its own article, it does seem like a useful subcategorization of these models in that it breaks an extremely long list (all playmates) into a more manageable chunk (though still, ahem, more than a handful). I have attached the list below. What do you think about includding it here? Interestingstuffadder 01:46, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

This is a list of the Playboy magazine's Playmates of the Month with the largest breasts. For the purposes of this list, "big breasts" is defined as D-cup or larger.

"PMOY" denotes that the Playmate was also voted "Playmate of the Year".

1950s

1960s

1970s

1980s

1990s

2000s

See also

Reference

[edit] Death sections

I think instead of a table of deaths, talking about the notable deaths would be more appropriate. FrozenPurpleCube 20:17, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of deaths

I've removed the list of deaths again. None of this information is sourced. If a source exists that provides this information, then it needs to be properly cited. Saying "this information is cited elsewhere" is not enough, as this information is not cited elsewhere. The individual articles for each of these people are almost entirely devoid of reliable sources, so claiming that the citations are there just isn't true. If any of this information is actually within the two books listed at the bottom of the article, then add that information, but nothing more. --- RockMFR 23:34, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pubic hair

The first Playmate to show pubic hair was Liv Lindeland, Miss January 1971. An underwater photo by Russ Meyer taken of Marguerite Empey for her second appearance as a Playmate in February 1956 also showed pubic hair, but this photo did not attract public attention as much as Lindeland's centerfold appearance, perhaps because the magazine had a smaller circulation at that time. Neither did a picture showing the corner of Melodye Prentiss's pubic hair in July 1968

This sounds a bit silly. From what I can understand it's saying 'the first Playmate to show pubic hair was Liv. Well actually, we lie, it wasn't the first as the ones in Feb 1956 and July 1968 did as well but they didn't attract much attention.' If my understanding is correct, then it needs to be reworked. Something like, Liv Lindeland, Miss January 1971's apparance attracted consider attention as her pubic hair was shown Nil Einne 13:22, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Playmates decidedly need to be on the centerfold?

I was under the impression that a Playmate doesn't necessarily have to be a Playmate of the Month, as is described in the first sentence of the article. Was I wrong? Aditya(talk • contribs) 16:03, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Forgot to add If I'm wrong then some editing will be required at the article on Jayne Marie Mansfield. Aditya(talk • contribs) 16:28, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
Yes, you're wrong. Playmate and Playmate of the Month are the same thing. 'Playmate' is the title for the girl who appears on the centrefold spread, not anyone else in Playboy. There are 12 Playmates each year. Queer Scout (talk) 01:42, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
Ditto to what Queer Scout said. Just the centerfold is considered to be a Playmate. All the rest are simply models. Dismas|(talk) 04:41, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
And the article is correct in that Jayne Marie Mansfield's mother, Jayne Mansfield was a Playmate. Dismas|(talk) 04:44, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Are Playboy playmates considered porn stars?

I am currently working through Category:American actors and moving the articles into subcategories, mostly by medium. There are a number of Playboy Playmates listed in this category. Some of them, such as Rebekka Armstrong, have appeared in numerous Playboy videos. Are Playmates considered porn stars or should they just be marked as film actors? Or just female adult models? They are already marked as Playboy Playmates so their film career may be assumed by that, but I'd rather not just remove their actor category without making sure.

I asked this question last week in Category talk:American porn stars, but got no response. I am also asking on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Actors and Filmmakers. I am not an expert on this topic, so would appreciate any input. Thanks! -- KathrynLybarger (talk) 16:15, 24 February 2008 (UTC)