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[edit] Malicious Editing?

On the side panel Micheal Jackson is listed as having appeared in the film--truth or malicious editing?

Good question, but what does it matter? If he wasn't in the movie, that's unfortunate because he gets credit for what someone else did... but if he was, all that means is that he participated in a classic film.

HELLO! He's not in the movie. It matters because it's misinformation and this is an encylcopedia. It's also malicious because it's patently RACIST. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.38.49.51 (talk) 06:41, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Editing Kudos

  • Much better image in the article, thanks for editing with those who have not seen the movie in mind. Fully support Jason Palpatine's last edit. Michael Dorosh 20:11, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Alternate Universe?

I wonder if the five movie story arc consistently occurs in the same universe, or whether the first film indeed does occur on an alternate Earth, with a space agency called ANSA (note the astronauts uniforms), human FTL travel in the late sixties/early seventies, and different New York shoreline geography (as Taylor finds the ruined Statue of Liberty adjacent to a rock formation that must have taken far longer to form than a mere two millenia?)

User Calibanu 16.01, 25 October 2006

No, this movie really meant something. In the sixties and seventies, when the movie was made, millions, perhaps billions, of lives were threatened by nuclear arms. The US and USSR aimed nukes at each other and the strategy was that both sides knew if they launched anything, the opposite would destroy them. This movie illustrates that humans put themselves in danger because they fight against each other over retrospectively trivial things.Making meaningless speculation about this planet being coincidentally similar to Earth, but a couple thousand years ahead, is meaningless and all it does is destroy the effect of the movie.
  • Of course the later retcon was that they used those nukes to fight the apes.

[edit] Lengthy Section

Does anybody think that the "Cultural Impact" section is too long? — Ultor_Solis (talk • contribs) 16:25, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Look at the previous section. MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) made it impossible for Americans, and probably Soviets, to live their lives the way they were meant to be lived. This movie was full of cultural impact, and belittling it contributes to cynical views of modern America which say that nothing is serious, it's about is entertainment. Actually, I think it was a poor job, because this movie was very significant, not to the culture of the time, but because it illustrates the future and emphasizes what will happen if our culture continues to desteriorate as it did in the 60's and 70's. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.100.53.115 (talk) 23:57, 20 February 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Sci-Fi continius loop

All five movies are Sci-Fi Loop: the space ship goes forward into a rip in space time. When the second space-ship also goes forward these two events culminate in the nuclear explosion of planet earth. The orginial space ship with three apes aboard manage to leave earth just as the nuclear explosion propels the ship even further backward in time. The two surviving apes father the leader of the ape revolution which leads to the battle of the apes and the seperation of apes above and humans become two species-the mutes above and the mutants below-until the first space ship crash's on earth..and the process begins all over again. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 134.53.145.163 (talk) 01:31, 4 February 2007 (UTC).

See the "Alternate Universe?" section above. We don't know if the arrival of the spaceship from the future is part of a time loop or if it forked off another timeline. (See Back to the Future for information on forked timelines.) Without some in-universe reference or something from one of the creative people behind the series of movies (properly referenced), we can't say on Wikipedia. Val42 04:17, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
Actually that is not entirely true. At the end of the last film, "Battle for the Planet of the Apes" we are given more than assurance that the time line was changed by showing the Lawgiver telling stories to both ape and human children. Although this may appear somewhat ambiguous the following television series did actually take up the subject as humans did retain speech and some form of acceptance in society and the astronauts that land are different people. So there are ways to speculate in a neutral and encyclopedic manner about it.--Amadscientist 10:14, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Battle shows confirmation of continual looped timeline of future creating past. The mentioned scene at the end of the lawgiver talking about apes & humans living in harmony shows that they tried that way; the tears of the statue imply that it didn't work. Also remember that humans de-evolved. 68.180.38.31 (talk) 02:49, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Guns

Are those rifles they are using at the end real, or are they just made up? PolarisSLBM 03:25, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Honestly, it looked like the rifles were made-up, but not in a Sci-Fi way. If you think about it, the government knew about the faults of humanity, and guns are considered a fault. All they do is kill stuff. So, although I think they were made-up, they were not dissimilar to the modern guns of the time.
The prop guns used for this movie were designed to be similer yet different from a modern rifle.--Amadscientist 10:08, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Plot Edit

It says: "They flee to the Forbidden Zone, where Cornelius (an archeologist) had, a year earlier, discovered a cave with artifacts of human technology." Should this be tweaked to reflect that at this point in the film it is merely known to be advanced, not necessarily human? KomradeDave 22:59, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Nova

I've created a page for Nova, which can be found here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nova_%28Planet_of_the_Apes%29 but I'm having a hard time linking articles to it and getting it on the Nova disambiguation page. Anyone able to help? Callum J. Stewart 09:58, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Family Guy

The last scene relates to a Family Guy episode where Mayor Adam West talks about the Statue of Liberty being destroyed when Peter gets it's foot. Can anybody put that in?

[edit] Living Mannequin?

When Taylor is running through the Human museum, he hides behind one of the "mannequins" while being chased. There's a close shot of the figure, and I could have sworn I saw its eye twitch! Was this intentional? Any trivia out there regarding the man who played this part? The opaque contact lenses he was wearing would be really uncomfortable in the late 60s level of technology, I would think!

?? That was a dummy.--Amadscientist 10:03, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dodge stuffed

There is simply no suggestion in the film that dodge was stuffed because of his skin color. That was written into the novelization I believe but I do not recall it being mentioned in the movie.--Amadscientist 11:21, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Project Film Style guide line fixes

To bring this article up to standards per wikipedia Project Film style guide lines I have begun making changes to the article.

I have rewritten the lead in section removing information about the plot. I added several actor names. I discuss notable references from the production like writing the script as well as awards and being the first film franchise, and most important made it at least two paragraphs long.

I have also completely removed the References in pop culture section as this is not note worthy. If it is to be included at all it needs to be written into well worded prose. Or moved to a new page. Discuss if this upsets anyone. New section will be added soon. I apologise in advance if this upsets any editors but this article is very "listy".

Still needed to be done;

Add production section.

Remove trivia section by incorporating information into the body of the article. (much of it can go into the new production section)

Remove laundry lists by writing as prose. A good two thirds of this article is just lists. Tsk Tsk. Not encyclopedic (That's part joke-part serious)

Add referenced sources. This article is the only article I have seen on Wikipedia with absolutely NO references. What's up with that?--Amadscientist 10:03, 3 August 2007 (UTC) I'm going to add back the thing that Boulle said he wished he'd thought of serling's ending, so don't ban me.```` —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.167.60.7 (talk) 22:16, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Planet of the Apes Ship.jpg

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BetacommandBot (talk) 16:15, 8 March 2008 (UTC)