Talk:Planet Ladder

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Planet Ladder was a good article nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There are suggestions below for improving the article. Once these are addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

^{Reviewed version: February 3, 2007}

[edit] GA Review

Although in general the article is well put together, I have failed it's GA nomination for a number of reasons. The main problem with the article is that it is completely in-universe. See Wikipedia:Notability (fiction) for some tips on how to write an article based on a work of fiction. Related to this first criticism is that the only sources of information cited are various volumes of the manga itself. Per WP:RS, these sources cannot be considered reliable. However, this criticism is somewhat a misnomer, since it is generally acceptable to cite a piece of media when describing in-universe facts (though if you were to add out-of-universe information, as I've suggested above, they would obviously not be sufficient). In doing so, I would generally try and cite specific in-universe facts (using in-line citations), and quoting whenever possible directly from the media itself. For a few examples of how to do this, see Final Fantasy VII and Dead Like Me. Hopefully these issues can be addressed at some point, and the article renominated for GA-status. If you have any questions or concerns about the article or about this review itself, please let me know and drop me a line on my talk page. Drewcifer (talk) 11:35, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] GA fail

This article is better than last time, it seems, but still not quite there. It is still overwhelmed with in-universe information. Reign that plot summary and character-description info in. I'd say cut it by at least two-thirds. And see if you can add anything more to the Reception and Production sections. Also, when citing websites, be sure to include the title of the web page. Wrad (talk) 01:06, 1 March 2008 (UTC)