Talk:Plane (Dungeons & Dragons)

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Isn't the Blood Sea of Istar (Dragonlance) a conduit from Krynn to the Abyss? --'Net 18:29, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Is the Blood Sea something similar to the River Styx or Oceanus (where travel down the river/ocean results in traveling along the planes)? If so, then that's a planar pathway, and totally different. In fact, I should probably add planar pathways to the Portals, Conduits, and Gates section. — Shoecream 23:10, Feb 18, 2005 (UTC)
I think so. In the Forgotten Realms, the River of Blood is the same as the River Styx in the core Dungeons & Dragons setting. ‡ Jarlaxle June 30, 2005 04:57 (UTC)

Is the Shadow Plane the same as the Shadow Deep? Different authors seem to use different terminologies in the War of the Spider Queen series. Iluvchineselit 00:04, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

The Shadow Deep is a certain area of the Shadow Plane, I think the deepest or densest. ⇒ JarlaxleArtemis 03:48, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] merge

No need for every single concept in D&D to have its own page. The planes can be generalized enough to explain them and all fit on one page. shadzar|Talk|contribs 17:39, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

I disagree (with respect to the major planar concepts anyway), when there have been numerous books written about a topic (as is the case with most major planar concepts), it deserves its own article. Dec 26 2006

  • Technically, EVERYTHING can be generalized enough to fit on one page, but that doesn't mean we have to do it.--Robbstrd 07:35, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
I think that the way this and other articles about D&D planes are currently arranged is not very good. Important information (like the properties of the plane of Radiance are not documented at all) and things I have never heard of (like the Far Realm) are given more coverage.
The Inner Planes, Prime Material Plane (aka Material Plane in 3e), the Outer Planes and the Far Realm (which I don't recall seeing in Manual of the Planes or Planescape - we need a citation for this) are lumped into one small section called "Spacial planes". This reduces their importance compared to the Transitive Planes, which are given much more detail on this page. Incidentally I don't recall seeing the term "Spacial planes" before. I'd like to see a citation for this as well.
If you don't want to merge the other articles with this then the "Transitive Planes" should be given their own article and the section for them should be a summary. However, I'd prefer all of the articles about D&D planes to get a major rewrite by people familiar with the Planescape campaign setting and the 1e and 3e versions of the Manual of the Planes. Big Mac 13:01, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Phlogiston is not a transitive plane

The author of the Phlogiston section says that it is "not traditionally considered a plane" but it is actually not a plane at all and has no place in an article about the transitive planes. The Planescape Campaign Setting set down in cannon that the Phlogiston and wildspace are both part of the Prime Material Plane. Previously, the cosmology of D&D had spoken about Alternate Prime Material Planes, but Planescape switched this to a single Prime Material Plane.

This Prime Material Plane consists of an uncountable number of crystal spheres floating in the Phlogiston. The Phlogiston does have special properties (its highly flammable and blocks all interaction with other planes) but it is still part of the Material Plane.

I know a Planescape expert and I'll try to get the name of the book where this was set out.

I'm proposing that this section is removed from the article. It would be acceptable to include it in a section about the Prime Material Plane. However that might not please people looking for information on the older "multiple prime cosmology", so it should probably be in a section of that article dedicated to the Planescape/Spelljammer version of the Prime Material Plane. Big Mac 13:20, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] deletion.

with 4th edition it seems all things in D&D must change. with those changes it seems planes have become one large region for change. now either the entire article could be written over with each new edition change or errata, or since the article only continues to explain [Plane (metaphysics)] in D&D terms we could just add the planar material somewhere else and list how they have changed with editions. i do NOT think Planescape should be the end-all-be-all definition of planes of existence in D&D as it was just a small look into and not core to D&D planes as a seperate campaign setting. this is effort to reduce the amount of edition specific material in lgiht of potential new editions and help remove edition bias with the cosmology changes described with the 4th edition. if this subject does warant its own article then a major overhaul needs to be done on it. shadzar|Talk|contribs 18:03, 13 October 2007 (UTC)