Talk:Plácido Domingo

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[edit] Citizenship

The article says he has dual citizenship of Spain and Mexico. Is this indeed correct? Please verify and add link to verifiable information source. (May 16, 2006)

I don't know about the dual citizenship but he is indeed a Mexican citizen[1] -- Lancini87 20:35, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
Thank you, Lancini87. To my knowledge, somewhere in one of his biographies, Mr. Domingo mentions that he had to give up his Mexican citizenship in Franco's time, since he always had difficulties when entering his native Spain because of this back then. It would speak for the fact that he is not Mexican citizen (any more) today. I would not completely trust the one link mentioned above. In most current biographies, the mention is of Domingo as a "Spanish tenor" and not of "Spanish-Mexican tenor" (only here in Wikipedia!). Of course, and without doubt, Mexico plays a very, very important role in his life, but this that not mean that he is a citizen of Mexico. May 17, 2006
Hmm... Do you have any sources to this "one biography" that states that? Anyway, here are Yahoo! links to many other sources where he's referred to as a "Spanish-Mexican" or "hispano-mexicano" in Spanish [2][3]. So no, it's not "only here in Wikipedia" -- Lancini87 14:04, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
Well, right, these are all pages that mention that he is "Spanish-Mexican" (about 70 webpages).... but when you search for "Spanish", you'll find 96,600 webpages :-) [4] I'll look if I can find the page in Domingo's AUTObiography. It's somewhere in his first biography, the "My first 40 years" but I'll have to find where exactly. May 19, 2006
Well, of course there's going to be more sources that refer to him simply as Spanish. After all, he WAS born in Spain. But as you said before "Mexico plays a very, very important role in his life", even more than his native country. -- Lancini87 16:15, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

He gave an interview about the time of Cancun concert in December 2003 where he refrained from commenting on some aspect of Mexican politics because he is not Mexican, merely lives in Mexico. AndI have read nterviews where he says his wife and sons are Mexican.

His Mexican nationality must be proven (cited with reference) before adding it in the article. He cannot be called Spanish-Mexican just because spends most of his life in Mexico. If he is a Mexican, please cite with reference and nobody will argue about this ever again. Anybody can live in other countries for years, but that doesn’t make them the “citizens”. - Jay 02:00, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Spanish born, mexican passport.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.168.105.128 (talk • contribs) 20:45, 29 October 2007

Yeah right, that is excatly how you trying to tell us in Domingo DE that 1934 is written in his Mexican passport, because you were there at his "secret birthday" party. C'mon, knock it off, bro! Where is the proof that you were there in his "secret" birthday party and that you have seen his Mexican passport? - Jay 07:10, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Are we discussing nationality or citizenship? They're different concepts. Nationality is self-defined. If Domingo regards himself as "Mexican by association", then he has Mexican nationality. Whether or not he has Mexican citizenship, something over which the Mexican Government has control, is a competely different question. -- JackofOz (talk) 13:53, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
The solution is simple, if anyone can cite the reference(s) (from verifiable references) that his nationality is Mexican, then, it is not an issue to add it in the article or not, it is arguable - Jay (talk) 13:57, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism

Once again, someone has been vandalising the page..... It's not "minor edits" as he/she says...... What can one do? Maybe this wiki page should be locked once again... It's really a nuisance! May 19, 2006

I have posted this the following on the Talk page of this vandal. We need to keep an eye on continued purile nonsence of this type and, if it continues, go through the Admin. blocking process. Vivaverdi 16:31, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] discography

The official SonyBMG Masterworks discography link for this artist is as follows

It (in most cases) contains a full listing of in-print CDs released on the SonyBMG labels within the US (for the moment), along with track listings and in some cases audio clips (which will become more robust in the new year). Ecommerce links are provided inobtrusively.

I have been informed that it creates a conflict of interest to post these links directly from my account, so please consider adding the page to the link section. Thanks.

[edit] Postnominals?

Knights Commander of the British Empire are customarily awarded the postnominal initials KBE, and their names in Wikipedia article titles are displayed with those initials and a link to the corresponding page. If no one knows of any reason why Mr. Domingo does not use those postnominals in his name, I suggest they be added to the article. 65.60.250.14 19:56, 21 February 2007 (UTC)Brian

Seeing no objection or comments on this issue, I have made the proposed modifications. 65.60.250.14 00:42, 16 March 2007 (UTC)Brian

[edit] Family?

Anything on his family? I think he's married and has children, isn't that right? 140.147.160.78 13:45, 6 September 2007 (UTC)Stephen Kosciesza

I have added brief info about his family. I believe that will do. - Jay 05:22, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Nobody can possibly sing Alfredo at 20. Nobody could manage 12 roles and 280 performances ar 21 to 22 1/2. And nobody can sing Edgardo in Lucia di Lammermoor at 21 as said. The fairy tale of a man who wants to be born in 1941. Much more realistic is 1934. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.44.147.2 (talk • contribs) 20:40, 28 October 2007

[edit] Domingo’s nationality and birth date

There is no evident to prove that Domingo is Mexican, despite have been living there practically half of all his life – and that means he is not and obviously cannot be considered as “Mexican”. If you have any evidence for it, please include it in the article for reference or not, the category or nationality of the “Mexican” will always be questioned by many people. As far as the law is concerned, he is Spanish. Wiki must set the correct information and not misleading the fact just because he was brought up in Mexico. My cousin was born in my country and has been living in UK for more than half her life, but I can never say she is British until she received her British citizenship recently – this is one real life example. - Jay 03:56, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Nobody can possibly sing Alfredo at 20. And nobody can sing Edgardo in Lucia di Lammermoor at 21 as said. Nobody could manage 12 roles and 280 performances ar 21 to 22 1/2. The fairy tale of a man who wants to be born in 1941. Much more realistic is 1934.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.44.147.2 (talk • contribs) 20:40, 28 October 2007

Unless if you have the original copy of his birth certificate and able to prove it to us, DO NOT change his birth date, it goes the same with his nationality. Read 3 references below.

Thanks - Jay 08:59, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism:213.196.196.168/213.196.196.163

Three separate registered editors, all members of The Opera Project have provided 4 verifiable references for Domingo's 1941 birth date: Encyclopedia Britannica, Concise Grove Dictionary of Music, The Encyclopedia of World Biography, and Warrack, J. and West, E. The Oxford Dictionary of Opera (1992). If anyone can provide verifiable evidence to the contrary, please bring it to the talk page and stop editing anonymously. The repeated edits and reverts by this anonymous user has resulted in virtually blanking the page and/or deleting chunks of content several times today. If it continues, we will ask for the page to be locked to anonymous editors and report the specific ISPs to Wikipedia for vandalism.Voceditenore 14:55, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Early biographies note the correct birthday: 21. January 1934. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.44.151.176 (talk) 19:45, 25 September 2007 (UTC) (Portions of the above comment by 84.44.151.176 have been removed on advice from the administrators at the Biographies of living persons Noticeboard Voceditenore 05:53, 30 September 2007 (UTC))

Even if you are correct, where is the proof? Wikipedia article cannot be written following what rumours say. Edit warring will not solve your problem. One more thing, if somebody like to be known as "what he is" or "who he is", let they be what they want to be. Like Mr. Domingo, he prefers his birth year to be 1941, let respect his choice. Thanks - Jay 01:13, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
Wikipedia is an encyclopedia of fact, the preferences of an article's subject (if contrary to verifiable evidence) should carry no weight whatsoever. However, in this case, there is no need to refer to Domingo's preferences. Four independent verifiable sources have been given for the 1941 birth date. As for anonymous user, 84.44.151.176's comments, unverifiable rumour has no place on Wikipedia, and especially in biographies of living persons. The 1979 edition of The Concise Oxford Dictionary of Opera, p. 137 erroneously listed his birth date as January 12, 1934 (note they also got the day wrong). This was corrected to January 21, 1941 in the 1992 edition. If you can supply references for other 'early biographies' which list his birth date as 1934 (published, reliable, and authoritative ones, which have not been superceded by later editions), please provide them. If not, please desist from anonymous and disruptive edit warring, such as that which you have engaged in over the past days and which has resulted in your blanking large sections of the page several times. (213.196.196.168,213.196.196.163, and 84.44.151.176 all trace back to the same address in Cologne.) Note also that Daniel Snowman obtained Domingo's birth certificate from the Madrid authorities - it showed January 21, 1941 as the birth date. Here is the reference for that: Matheopoulos, Helena, Plácido Domingo - My Operatic Roles, Little Brown, 2000, ISBN: 0316643769. (See also: Snowman, Daniel, The World of Placido Domingo, McGraw-Hill, 1985 ISBN: 0070595275) Best, Voceditenore 08:29, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Three early biographies note the correct year of 1934. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.14.202.38 (talk) 13:18, 28 September 2007 (UTC) (Portions of the above comment by 195.14.202.38 have been removed on advice from the administrators at the Biographies of living persons Noticeboard Voceditenore 05:53, 30 September 2007 (UTC))

Yet another unsigned, and anonymous comment from the same address in Cologne, Germany. Once again, please provide the exact references for these un-named 'early biographies'. And please refrain from repeatedly posting unverifiable rumour on this page. It is not allowed in the biographies of living persons on Wikipedia and will be reported to the Biography Project's Incidents Notice Board. Thank you. Voceditenore 14:48, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
195.14.202.38, I will only believe you, if you could prove it, can you? Oh yea.. by the way, I am Domingo’s nephew. I know my uncle well :) I can "write" more than that, I can say as a nephew to my beloved uncle, I was there when he confessed that he was born on 1941 or 1934 or whatever. See, talking or writing without fact is pointless! I am not saying that you are wrong because your are probably right but if we go by “believing” without a fact, Wikipedia will end up becoming a tabloid newspapers, don’t you think? You do not have to reply again to tell us about his birth year unless if you could come out with verifiable fact. - Jay 14:55, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] His first role?

The article states that "Among his first performances is as the role of drunkard for the production of My Fair Lady where he is also the assistant conductor and assistant coach."

There is no "drunkard" in My Fair Lady. Did he play some anonymous drinker, or was he playing Doolittle, an important character with two songs and and several long comic speeches? I would suspect the latter. And somebody needs to fix the tenses, since I presume Domingo "was" the assistant. CharlesTheBold 01:07, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Refer to Encyclopedia of World Biography on Placido Domingo His early career also included productions of My Fair Lady, in which he sang the role of the drunkard. I believe the "drunkard" refers to Eliza's father, Alfred P. Doolittle - Jay 07:16, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

I guessed that; my point is that the article needs fixing, since "drunkard" is quite an understatement if he was playing an important character like Doolittle. Nobody would say that a Falstaff actor was "playing the drunkard in I Henry IV". CharlesTheBold 20:49, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Actually, I don't think he played Doolittle, which is a major role in the musical. The biography on his official web site states: "He started by accompanying his mother's recitals and singing minor baritone roles in his parents' company; He had already had some vocal instruction from his parents and at the Conservatory. He was then given a small part (my bolding) in the first Mexican production of "My Fair Lady" [...]. Stylistically, it might be better to rephrase the sentence in the article to:
"Among his first performances was a minor role in the first Mexican production of My Fair Lady where he was also the assistant conductor and assistant coach." Voceditenore 05:24, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Nobody can possibly sing Alfredo at 20. Nobody could manage 12 roles and 280 performances ar 21 to 22 1/2. The fairy tale of a man who wants to be born in 1941. Much more realistic is 1934.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.44.147.2 (talk • contribs) 20:40, 28 October 2007 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Voceditenore (talk • contribs)

Since none of us can really tell which role he played in My Fair Lady, I followed suggestion by Voceditenore . I have changed it to a “minor role”. - Jay 10:26, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] reply to age argument

If he was born in 1934 then he would be 73 now and still making promises to perform at age 80. For an opera singer that's as incredible as you claim at the young end of the range. CharlesTheBold 21:04, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

By the way: great tenor Giovanni Martinelli sang his last performance (Turandot, Seattle) at 82!!!—Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.44.213.1 (talk • contribs) 07:02, 29 October 2007
In addition to that, many opera singers of that era (and in the 19th century as well) sang major roles when they were very young. Maria Callas sang the title role in Tosca with the Greek National Opera when she 18. When she was 20, she sang Marta in Tiefland and Santuzza in Cavalleria rusticana with the same company. Note also this from the 'History' section of the Israel National Opera web site: "Realizing that Israel couldn't provide enough local singers to keep the company going, De Philippe began attracting international guest artists. In 1962, a young and relatively unknown mexican tenor by the name of Placido Domingo and his wife, soprano Marta Ornelas, arrived from Mexico. They remained with the INO for about two and a half years, in which Domingo appeared in 280 performances singing thirteen lead roles, some even in Hebrew." [5] Voceditenore 05:51, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
Further to the above, the description of Domingo by the INO as "young and relatively unknown" fits much better with someone in their early 20's, not 28 (which he would have been had he been born in 1934). By 28, most tenors of that era had already made their debuts in leading roles in major opera houses, e.g. José Carreras, Giuseppe Di Stefano, Mario del Monaco, Jussi Björling, Nicolai Gedda, Carlo Bergonzi etc (including Giovanni Martinelli). Unfortunately, the anonymous editor with the fixation about Domingo's age (all IP's trace back to the same address in Cologne, Germany) keeps peppering this page with the assertion of a 1934 birth date, despite all evidence to the contrary (including The Encyclopedia Britannica, The Encyclopedia of World Biography, The Concise Grove Dictionary of Music and The Oxford Dictionary of Opera), and despite his/her inability to produce even one published, verifiable, reliable reference for any birth date other than January 21, 1941. Voceditenore 07:11, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
    • By the way: die Stefanos debut was at 25, del Monacos at 25, Carreras' at 24, Bergonzis at 24, Wunderlichs at 25, Aragalls at 24, Pavarottis at 26, and Geddas at 27. Got it ? There is no excepton but Callas. Domingo started even as baritone, sang a few years as baritone, his own words, so he could never have sung leading tenor roles at 18 and 20. Any more questions? (Xavier Veritas, Madrid)

The —unsigned comment added by 213.196.205.85 (talk) 07:17, 29 October 2007 (UTC) has been removed on advice from the administrators at the Biographies of living persons Noticeboard.Voceditenore 07:31, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

To the anonymous 'editor' from Cologne: If you want to keep repeating ad nauseam the 1934 birthdate and how no one at the age of 20 could sing Alfredo, that's your choice. However do not post unverifiable rumour naming third parties as a source, as you did in your most recent comment. It is not allowed in the biographies of living persons on Wikipedia, even on talk pages. Such comments will be summarily removed. If you persist, we will report you to the Biography Project's Incidents Notice Board and ask the talk page to be protected from anonymous editing, as is the main article. Thank you. Voceditenore 08:37, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Deleting comments from other users

This should not be done except for the removal of material incompatible with biographies of living persons. Simply disputing the birth date and arguing that a 20 year old couldn't sing Alfredo does not fall into that category, although the constant repetition of this is getting pretty annoying. Removing it also made the reply by CharlesTheBold out of context because the statement he had replied to was no longer visible. This is why I have restored it. Note also that if it is necessary to remove a comment from the talk page, this should be noted on both the edit summary and on the talk page itself. For guidance on this, see Talk page guidelines - Editing comments Thanks Voceditenore 11:56, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Obituaries of Domingo's parents

I'm not sure how useful these would be, but just in case:

Voceditenore 12:03, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, they surely are very useful. - Jay 13:59, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Continued vandalism by 195.14.201.27/213.196.199.75

Your recent edits to this page which have removed content (twice in the last 36 hours) are in violation of Wikipedia regulations. Please do not do this again. If you have something constructive to say, please add it to this page, but do not remove the comments of other editors. Note however, that any material you add which is in violation of regulations for the biographies of living persons will be removed as per advice from the administrators at the Biographies of living persons Noticeboard as were your edits as 213.196.196.168, 213.196.196.163, and 84.44.151.176. All of those IPs plus 195.14.201.27 and 213.196.199.75 trace back to the same address in Cologne. Once again, please stop your vandalism and unconstructive edits. Thank you Voceditenore (talk) 21:20, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Question

Does anybody see a benefit in converting the Complete repertoire section into tables, such as the ones used to good effect on List of recordings by Plácido Domingo? The ones on this page contain an equal amount of information needing to be read clearly. I am happy to give it a shot, but don't want to do the work if it turns out to be unneeded :-) Lethesl 13:32, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

It is a good idea but I would prefer the table to be in his page instead of at a new page - Jay (talk) 13:35, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
Oh, I'd certainly leave it in the same section it's currently in, sorry if I implied otherwise Lethesl 13:38, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Renewed Vandalism

Within 3 weeks of the last semi-protection being lifted, the following anonymous IPs have started the birth date vandalism again and revert warring again:

They are highly likely to be all the same person, and the same one who previously vandalised the article (See Vandalism:213.196.196.168/213.196.196.163 and Continued vandalism by 195.14.201.27/213.196.199.75 above.)

I am on my second revert today and have requested semi-protection again.Voceditenore (talk) 11:53, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Update Semi-protection has been refused on the grounds that the article "hasn't been vandalized enough recently". It's unclear how much is "enough", especially in the biography of a living person. Hence, I'm keeping track here. Since the previous semi-protection was lifted, the article has had the false birth date repeatedly re-inserted by the anonymous IPs above on:

16:11, 15 February 2008
13:58, 15 February 2008
10:11, 15 February 2008
07:05, 15 February 2008
11:36, 14 February 2008
16:20, 13 February 2008
15:59, 7 February 2008

Voceditenore (talk) 12:33, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Article protected history

For the 3rd times in less than 5 months, the article has to be locked again.

1st - 24 September 2007
2nd - 14 Oct 2007
3rd - 15 February 2008

Jay (talk) 16:44, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New Orleans City Council honors Placido Domingo

Stage named for opera singer

By Bruce Eggler, Times-Picayune, March 24, 2008

[...] Even though Domingo has never sung at the Mahalia Jackson Theatre of the Performing Arts, the New Orleans City Council voted 7-0 last week to name the city-owned theater's stage in his honor: the Placido Domingo Stage in the Mahalia Jackson Theatre in Louis Armstrong Park. Such honors normally go to prominent local residents or national celebrities who were at least born in New Orleans, such as gospel singer Jackson and jazz great Armstrong [...]

Full article here:

http://www.nola.com/news/t-p/frontpage/index.ssf?/base/news-27/1206336092175050.xml&coll=1

Voceditenore (talk) 11:49, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Otello photo

I'm not sure that's a photo of Domingo as Otello; it may be him in another role. He uses black makeup on his face when playing Otello, and the photo makes him look as if he isn't wearing any.AlbertSM (talk) 21:26, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Albert, Mr. Domingo has played Otello for many times, for that, he also have used various make-up artists services. I have all 4 of his Otello's DVDs (all with different color toning). And the one I hate so very much is Otello (1986 film) directed by Franco Zeffirelli - because the make-up artist colored his face too dark until he looks so evil and different than him we usually know. The picture in his article was taken during Otello 1992 at Royal Opera House along with Kiri Te Kanawa and Sergei Leiferkus. And, it was given to me by his PR, it was taken for the opera promotion, not on stage. Cheers. - Jay (talk) 05:34, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Categorizing him as Mexican

I know this has been discussed before. But i think he has a right to be categorized as such. Not because it's my opinion, but because he self-identifies as a Mexican. I just saw an interview with him at 9 A.M. (central time) this morning on the Spanish language network Univision in Al Punto, hosted by Jorge Ramos. Well, during the interview, he is asked; "Where are you from, or where do you consider yourself from?" and he replies; "I consider myself both Spanish and Mexican. As it is known, I was born in Spain and lived in Mexico from age 8 to 21." - Lancini87 (talk) 15:43, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Here's the interview. - Lancini87 (talk) 19:20, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
Since no one has commented, i'll go ahead and add the categories. - Lancini87 (talk) 17:29, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
As I said before, we do not have any issue if you have the reference for it. Btw, the reference you gave cant be opened. Could you fix the ref? - Jay (talk) 05:02, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
The reference is right there, he says it himself. In fact, he mentions it twice, after being asked where he considers himself from and later mentioning fellow opera singers he is working with, and their nationalities, he again refers to himself as Mexican. There's no problem with the url. It opens fine. I just tested it from my computer and my cousin's. But either way, i removed the last part from the url. Try again. - Lancini87 (talk) 18:30, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
Can you find a reference in English, so then we can put the link in his article. This is to avoid edit warring like what had happened before. Thanks - Jay (talk) 01:25, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
Despite the interview being in Spanish, i think it's the best reference we can use, since it comes from none other than himself. Besides, there's many other articles here on Wikipedia that cite to references in languages other than English. And as long at it is cited, i doubt there will be edit wars. - Lancini87 (talk) 02:41, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Number of roles

As I mentioned in a previous edit, Domingo's biography on his officially authorized web site lists him as only performing 126 roles, and though the the link provided previously says 130 roles, it includes four "roles" he performed on a recording, but never live on stage. His biography states he has performed 126, and if you were to ask him personally how many roles he's performed, his response would be 126. Thus, it should be reported as 126 on this page so nobody questions the validity of the information on this page. If someone finds this wikipedia article stating 130 roles, and finds his official biography on his web site stating 126 roles, one might question the accuracy of the information on this page.

Also, if you want to state how many roles he's performed, and include "as of (month) of (year)" in parenthesis, it needs to be listed as the current month and year, otherwise it suggests that the information could have changed between the date listed and the present time. If you want to keep the listing of "March of 2008," the wording should be changed to "Domingo performed his 126th on stage role in March of 2008," or something similar. CH52584 (talk) 19:06, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi there, the list of repertoire were taken from his own website, and the total number is 130. Repertoire in this context means full opera (whether recording or on stage). His last "debut" is on March, so the counting stops at March - Jay (talk) 00:46, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
Jay, if the total of the repertoire was taken from his web site, please link that and not a link from another part of wikipedia. My official link shows 126, so unless you can find a link that says otherwise, it should be reported as 126 OFFICIAL roles with four recorded roles. Giving an inaccurate official number calls the accuracy of the article into question. Also, as far as the date goes, I don't think you understand what I said. The way it's written now, it implies that the information is two months old. I see from your own talk page that you're from Malaysia, so you might not realize this, but what you said in your response IS NOT what the article says. My next revision will take care of the language issue regarding the date, and will give further detail regarding the 130/126 issue. CH52584 (talk) 03:04, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
We are talking about total repertoire (126 stage + 4 studio = 130). The list of all opera are from his official website (http://www.placidodomingo.com/inhalt.php?id=1092&menu_level=1&id_mnu=1092&id_kunden=196). Oh, so because I am malaysian, you think I dont "realized" it? What part of "it" that I dont realize? - Jay (talk) 05:16, 26 May 2008 (UTC)


Sorry if I offended you, but the date the way it's worded in the article DOES NOT SAY WHAT YOU MEAN. That's why I changed it. If you don't realize that, I assume English isn't your native language.
Also, on page 22 of the Washington National Opera's playbill for Tamerlano, Domingo himself writes, "Orest in Glucks's Iphigenie en Tauride at the Metropolitan Opera...and Bajazet in Handel's Tamerlano at Teatro Real in Madrid. They are, respectively, my 125th and 126th roles." Thus, if you were to ask Placido Domingo himself how many roles he has played, he would answer 126. Therefore, if the number you give is different, YOU MUST EXPLAIN WHY!!! I don't know why you're not getting that. CH52584 (talk) 11:25, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
  • The current revision looks fine to me. It's clear, well-phrased and accurate. The only thing I would change is the footnote reference used for the 126 roles.[7]. It's badly formatted and out of date. I suggest substituting it with this one:
<ref>Tim Smith, [http://www.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/arts/bal-to.domingo29apr29,0,1339824.story Placido Domingo takes on new challenge], ''[[Baltimore Sun]]'', April 29, 2008. Retrieved 26 May 2008.</ref>
which will look like this:
Tim Smith, Placido Domingo takes on new challenge, Baltimore Sun, April 29, 2008. Retrieved 26 May 2008.
Best, Voceditenore (talk) 13:35, 26 May 2008 (UTC)