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Is J1 actually a chartered theme hall or simply a hall of primarily science majors? I've been told by admin. that the only themed halls at the present are Sub-Free, Involvement and HUSH. Unless J1 actually has a charter as a Joint Science Hall, it shouldn't be listed as a themed hall. Also, I don't see the relevance of explaining residence hall nomenclature (last section) in an encyclopedia. Wanted to see if you had a reason for that before I delete it. Coreyander 21:35, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)

J1 as far as I know was not an official science hall athough that could have changed. When I was there it was unoficially designated as a pre-med, pre-engineering hall. In fact some Mudd students lived there, I guess for the quiet... I was K1 and J2 before moving down to Mudd-Blaisdell at Pomona (Blaisdell side, tower). Holden rocks!

Wow, this reads like a publicity department leaflet for Pitzer. zafiroblue05 | Talk 09:43, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

If you have a reliable source for negative information about the college we can add it. -Will Beback 18:58, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
It's not that the information presented on the page is wrong as it is meaningless.
  • "Pitzer engages a student's mind, heart and spirit by integrating educational resources on campus, abroad and in the local community.
  • "Pitzer College celebrates cultural diversity and intercultural understanding."
  • "Intercultural and interdisciplinary learning are highly valued at Pitzer. Students are encouraged to take advantage of these programs as well as many other Claremont resources that enrich and strengthen their appreciation of global diversity."
Those statements (for example) aren't wrong, per se - they're just propganda. zafiroblue05 | Talk 04:46, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
Sorry for not paying attention. Someone actually did copy a few paragraphs from a publicity department leaflet. I'll never understand why college articles so often contain plagiarized material. Thanks for spotting it. Cheers, -Will Beback 06:13, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] The Grove House

Is there a way to get a better picture of the Grove House? The one currently there just show the trees and hides the Craftsman style architecture...Shirley Ku 19:12, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Totally Biased and Un-Cited

As a Pitzer Alum who served in student government, I'm personally saddened to see the amount of propaganda, factual errors, and utter lack of citations in this entry.

[edit] Propoganda:

"The College is committed to recruiting and retaining a student body that is diverse; not only in the traditionally demarcated aspects (e.g. religiously, ethnically, academically, sexually), but also in terms of socioeconomic status"
This seems to be pulled directly from a PR blurb
"Pitzer recognizes that $41k is a huge burden, even for well-off families, so their staff, subsequently, makes every effort to provide students with enough financial aid to cover all 100% of their estimated"
While it's a nice idea, it's very hard to substantiate the Pitzer staff making every effort to provide students
"Although the school does not yet have to the financial resources to admit students Need Blind, the Admissions Committee makes every effort to recruit an eclectic pool of qualified, intellectual, motivated students."
Again with the every effort, this time for the admissions committee. How about "...the college states a commitment to recruiting an eclectic pool of qualified, intellectual, motivated students." Also, who's to say when a school has sufficient financial resources to accept 'need blind'
"Noting the significant negative impact of standardized testing on potential applicants with limited financial and social resources — and the inherent problems associated with quantifying individuals using a single test score — Pitzer is part of the SAT optional movement for undergraduate admission."
'significant negative impact' and 'inherent problems' are bold statements in dire need of citation and should be qualified. With citations it seems more appropriate to be "Based on scientific research conducted by xxxxx that found the SAT to negatively impact applicants of limited financial and social resources, Pitzer decided in 2004 to make the SAT optional for all admission applicants."
"The school's high regard, academic rigor, and quality of education are keenly reflected in the academically precocious achievements of its motivated student body."
Wow, what does this even mean? Filled with PR speak and seems to be ripped from an Admissions Office pamphlet.

[edit] Factual Errors:

"As consequence of the building project, the college is in the grips of a severe housing shortage." 
The housing shortage is not due to the building project as none of the existing dorms are affected by the construction. The housing shortage is due to an increased enrollment. Pitzer computes budgets with a guideline of 750 enrolled students but the enrollment has increased over the past 15 years to be consistently over 900 while the number of beds has remained constant (unfortunately the Budget & Audit Committee doesn't have their financial documents online or I'd provide a citation link).
"Pitzer prides itself upon being the most "flexible" of the Claremont Colleges, most notably in its policy for allowing self-designed majors and encouraging study abroad."
All of the Claremont Colleges encourage study abroad.
"Each tower sports suites architecturally distinct from those located in Holden or Sanborn."
Architecturally, Mead is of the exact same cinder-block architecture. What is different is the layout. Architecturally different implies a distinction like craftsman vs. Spanish Adobe
"Due to a steady, unexpected increase in student enrollment, construction of new residence halls has become the hallmark of the Project."
How can it be both steady and unexpected?

[edit] Needing Citation (everything with figures):

"Over fifty percent of Pitzer students do receive financial assistance in some form; whether it be in loans, work study, scholarships, and/or institutional grants."
"The vast majority of Pitzer students live on campus"
should be quantified
"Pitzer describes its academic approach as linking "intellectual inquiry with interdisciplinary studies, cultural immersion, social responsibility and community connectivity.""
Quotes should be cited with a link
"According to the school's web site, in the most recent data reported by the National Science Foundation, Pitzer College ranked 8th in the number of alumni who pursued a Ph.D. in psychology, 29th in the number of alumni who pursued a Ph.D. in anthropology, and 38th in the number of alumni who pursued a Ph.D. in sociology, compared with 153 other private colleges and universities."
link needed
"Pitzer College grants admission to less than 39% of the student applicant pool (now, less than 37% for the incoming class of 2010)."
http://www.pitzer.edu/admission/firstyearprofile.asp

--You123go 09:01, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Someone keeps taking off the NPOV and TONE tags

I bet the Dean combs this entry and spices it up every couple of days. 68.101.130.214 20:25, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

The POV tag shouldn't be on an article unless there's an active discussion about fixing the POV problems. Tags don't fix problems - if you see somethig that needs fixing the best thing is just to fix it yourself. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 20:31, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] update

Every effort will be made to update this page to reflect current facts and figures, as well as mediate with the above users to provide a more meaningful Pitzer Wikipedia entry. Rory Reiff 18:12, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] citation needed for fellowship claims

If citations are not provided, the claims must be removed.Pupluv 08:38, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Masculinists Coalition

I removed the section on the Masculinists coalition again. Pitzer has over 150 student organizations, the coalition is only one of the most recent ones with relatively few members. Unless all of the organizations are included, I see no reason to include this coalition.

Here is the removed text: The Masculinists Coalition, an official student organization, was established to celebrate a positive male identity and is open to members of all races, religions, sexual orientations and genders. Before its official recognition in Spring of 2008, the group generated an ongoing discussion on campus, which attracted media coverage.[citation needed]

Dapoloplayer (talk) 00:41, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

I agree. While this group did generate some attention, it's undue weight to mention it without first mentioning the other groups that are larger or older. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 04:06, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
Just because the section is incomplete and does not have other clubs listed, does not mean that we should edit out information about clubs that someone has chosen to include. That would completely invalidate the idea of a constantly changing and growing resource of information. Rory Reiff (talk) 22:22, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
An encyclopedia article should endeavor to summarize all significant viewpoints about a topic with due proportion given to their relative importance. Frankly, I don't think students clubs are terribly important. But it would give readers a false impression of the subject if we discuss a small, new club at length without mentioning larger and older groups. WP:WEIGHT. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 05:56, 8 May 2008 (UTC)