Talk:Piracy in Somalia

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[edit] Illegal fishing

Why the hell was the illegal fishing removed from the article?

It's well known that foreigners go to the Somali Coast to illegally fish. The BBC even reported a couple of days ago that the piracy started to get rid of the illegal fishermen. Either you guys haven't done any research or you think is it ok to destroy the marine environment of Africans. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.68.30.247 (talk) 16:10, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

I removed it because it was unsourced. I think the article should have a neutral point of view, so if you can find a source, you can add it. I completely agree that some incidents called "piracy" are just fisherman mad that foreigners are fishing their fish. I have been meaning to add the Somali point of view, but I've been busy lately. But like I said, if you can find a source, you can add it. – Zntrip 22:19, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Here http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7358764.stm

[i]The BBC's Mohamed Olad Hassan in Somalia says many of the pirates are former fishermen, who began by attacking ships they argued were "illegally threatening or destroying" their business.

"Businessmen and former fighters for the Somali warlords moved in when they saw how lucrative it could be. The pirates and their backers tend to split the ransom money 50-50," he says. [/i]

[i]The Playa de Bakio with its crew of 13 Spaniards and 13 Africans of various nationalities was released on Saturday six days after it was seized by pirates armed with grenade launchers as it was fishing off the coast of Somalia.[/i]

http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=87&art_id=nw20080430112732396C894272

Europeans especially the Spanish have a history of illegally overfishing. I should know since I used to work with fishermen. ALl they care is about themselves. They kept being told not to overfish and they never listen. They go to other countries and rape the oceans. Even when the Canadians caught them illegally overfishing they still had the audacity to protest. Now if Spain and the EU were decent enough like USA and Canada these fishermen would have been arrested immeditaley and sent to jail. Instead of being treated like heroes. Personally in my opinion the Pirates should just kill a fishermen or two and then blow up their ship. It's sick but greedy animals will only learn when their lives are threatened. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.69.59.218 (talk) 17:21, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Militants

Can it be stated that the pirates taken by "Islamic militants" have, more than likely, been executed? 65.173.105.197 (talk) 23:01, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

I wouldn't without a clear referenced article, which I can't seem to find at this point. The Islamic Courts Union was, prior to the Ethiopian-backed counterattack, easily the best source of law and order that Somalia had since the country fell apart, apart from some exceptions when hotheads who went around beating up people for watching soccer games and such. It's possible that the pressure from the TFG and Ethiopian troops, as well as American air strikes on their leadership, have resulted in the organization collapsing so that it's nothing but remnant extremist fighters in the Al-Shabaab, but I wouldn't assume anything about how the pirates were treated. - BanyanTree 23:11, 4 June 2008 (UTC)