Talk:Pinot gris

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I removed the name "Auvernat Gris" because I couldn't tell if it was the same as "Auvergnat Gris" and couldn't tell whether it referred to Pinot gris ot Pinot Meunier or both (I suspect). Rmhermen 13:56, Oct 13, 2004 (UTC)

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[edit] Synonyms Table

Is anyone good at making tables? I think that would probably be the best way to present all the various synonyms and different countries. AgneCheese/Wine 22:07, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Information

I've found it pretty hard to look for a lot of info on this grape. Anyone have the same problem? Charleenmerced Talk 14:30, 23 March 2007 (UTC)Charleenmerced

Yeah. That or stuff that I 'know', but can't easily verify... --Limegreen 23:15, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
Well Limegreen, if you give me any facts or info that you would liked verified, I can try and do it. I have a hme almost oall of the libary books on wine plus, ther eis alwas the internet. Charleenmerced Talk 08:05, 24 March 2007 (UTC)CHarleenmerced
Well I've heard numerous winemakers discussing how the varietal characters develop late in the berries, often after the sugars are already getting very high. This then leaves a dilemma, make a sweeter wine, or a 'high octane' (15-16%) wine. However, having said that this is the case, it may be more to do with local growing conditions than a universal truth. --Limegreen 09:58, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
    • Sorry, couldn't find any of that in my books. Check the internet. Charleenmerced Talk 15:14, 25 March 2007 (UTC)Charleenmerced
I've been trying. I haven't won yet ;) --Limegreen 23:16, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mistitled/Broken Reference Link

Reference link #19 (a,b, & c) is mistitled and broken. The title should be "Professional Friends of Wine" (NOT "The Winepros" - an Australian-based commercial wine -selling site goes by this name, so applying this title to PfW invites legal conflict).

To fix the link so that it points to the proper page, remove the suffix "l" (*.htm, NOT *.html).

I was unable to figure out how to edit the reference links or I would have performed this task myself.

Jim LaMar 15:32, 25 May 2007 (UTC)Jim LaMar

It was actually a misplaced "|" not the letter "l", but I've gone ahead and fixed it as per your request.--Limegreen 22:18, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thoughts on assessment

This article seems to a borderline B, more on the B side than not. Extra thoughts are sought on this. The most glaring concern is the skimpiness on the wine region sections outside of Alsace. There is certainly more that can be discussed about Pinot gris (only two lines on Italian Pinot grigio?) than just Alsatian. The absence of a food pairing section is also a little concerning, especially since Pinot gris is always brought up as a major food pairing wine. AgneCheese/Wine 23:59, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Pinot Gris popularity

I propose to remove this final sentence from the lead paragraph as outdated. It predicts, in 2005, that as of the end of 2007, Pinot Gris would be the second most popular white wine. That prediction is now irrelevant, and I cannot find a suitable source to verify the current popularity of Pinot Gris.

Due to the grape's rising popularity, ACNielsen research data predicts that Pinot gris/Pinot grigio will overtake White Zinfandel as the fourth best selling varietal in the United States by the end of 2007.

If nobody has a source, I propose to delete the sentence as now outdated.Veritasjohn (talk) 21:03, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

I agree that it was a strange statement to have, especially in the introduction. It could perhaps have belonged in a subsection on US market in some section or other. I kept the reference but moved it to the history section and used it for a statement on PG increasing in popularity (beginning) a few years ago. Tomas e (talk) 20:25, 23 February 2008 (UTC)