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[edit] Is it just me...
...or did this article just become terribly deconstructed since yesterday? Anthony Rupert 03:56, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Gender and Pink
I've heard that pink = female, blue = male is not true even today in all cultures. I had a friend from Brazil who saw a baby in blue and he thought it was a female, and the parent said "well he is wearing pink, so of course he is a boy". And the Brazilian thought, "what does blue have to do with male? or pink with female? In Brazil, pink is a very masculine color". I haven't research this much yet though...
Pink is a very genderized colour, and should because of that have a separate section for that issue, like my edit http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pink&diff=28382778&oldid=27370288.
- I've restored your edit. Sorry about the confusion. --TantalumTelluride 18:25, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
Took out the sentence "This is most likely to be every girl's favorite color." I mean, come on.
Honestly, the whole gender section needs significant contextualization. Even though in some locations its viewed as a feminine colour, this is largely restricted to colours for infants and very young children. Pink has been a common feature in adult male clothing for a long time, and was only vaguely controversial among, well, insecure guys. Secondly, pink as a feminine colour is a distinctly Western invention, and this section implies that the whole planet thinks pink is for girls. Quite frankly, this section looks like it was written by a pre-teen.Leobrien 03:52, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, go to any office in the City and you will see lots of old men wearing pink shirts. They're VERY traditional. Talking about pink as "pink is gradually becoming an accepted colour for men to wear, albeit only ironically (ie., a tough person may be seen to be wearing pink simply because the colour is ironic and clashes with his personality)." is absolute hogwash.
Oyo 23:58, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
It is becoming increasingly common for men to wear pink, not even including pink work shirts. I think that though pink in western cultures is associated with femininity this bias is a little exaggerated in this article given the current climate. 82.41.10.26 (talk) 07:52, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Red + White = Pink
Somewhere in one of the color talk pages, someone says that the RGB coordinates for red are 255 0 0 and 255 0 128 is somewhat pink. However, according to what I learned long ago, pink is simply a mixture of red and white, which must mean that the only difference between pink and red is that red has less white in it than pink. So, if a pink is a color similarly to RGB coordinates 255 0 128 only lighter (that is, 255 128 191,) then red must be 255 0 128. The mixture of 255 0 0 and white is probably more like peach or coral.
Pardon my sarcasm, but it seems to me that this is a very incomplete history. Most articles attempt to prove their assertions.
Of course, using Douglass Adam's model and simply having the definitive last word is ok too.
It is my personal opinion that red + white = pink is a myth somewhat like many old wives tails. I believe (I've only heard anacdotal evidence to support it) that this "rule" got started when people mixing paints hundreds of years ago got pink in that manner without realizing that they accidentally added a tiny bit of blue with the white. Bright whites are a recent perfection in the color industry. Until this century manufactured white pigments were rarely as white as the shell of a chicken egg.
I've been told red + white = pink all my life but have tested this by pointing to objects and asking the color name. When showing color samples to many people over the years, reds + modern whites are only occasionally called pink instead of faded red or pale red. The colors called pink are on the blue side of red in a color wheel when using pure or light shades. These colors have been called wine and maroon when darker in shade.
I would like the red + white myth on this page to be listed as such but did not want to start a fight.
Pink is usually a range of colors and not a specific color. I will work this angle on another talk page. Ebt 15:07, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- On Japanese computers (R:G:B = 100%:0%:100%) magenta is called pinku (directly from English pink). Looking at the colour, perhaps this makes some sense. Maybe, you're right that this red + white = pink idea is a myth. - Jimp 24May05
- P.S. I put those colour boxes there so we can see the colours you refer to. Jimp 30May05
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- The opening paragraph is clearly misleading, and contradicts later examples. It defines pink as undersaturated red; I've only one thing to say- hot pink is (a) fully saturated, and (b) clearly *not* the same hue as red. I'm rewriting it; if you don't like the way I do it, please feel free to do better, but don't simply claim that pink is pale red. Fourohfour 11:05, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
If you use Photoshop and overlay 50% white over red, or 50% red over white, it is pink. 71.28.87.167 15:08, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
- Certainly, when mixing paints red and white make pink. 82.41.10.26 (talk) 07:43, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Pink = Feminine
does anyone know why pink should be regarded as a feminine colour? where does this symbolism originate from? --Cap 01:52, 13 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Have you looked at the Google answers page? Andros 1337 23:57, 19 Sep 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Pink = yellow?
The article mentions the origins of the word "pink" as "invented in the 17th century to describe the light red flowers of pinks". However, in 17th-century treatises on painting, it's classified as a yellow, as in Polygraphice, 1673 (PDF; reference on p. 96 [p. 26 of the PDF]) or a green, as in A Book of Drawing, Limning, Washing, etc., 1652 (PDF; reference on p. 38 [p. 40 of the PDF]).
With this in mind, what's the basis for the claim that it was invented to describe the color to which it now applies, and are there any extant 17th-century sources supporting it?
[edit] Pinks; traditional and modern
Following my update of the opening paragraph (see here for the discussion), I'd appreciate it if someone more knowledgeable than me could clarify which shades have been considered "pink" throughout history- e.g. would "hot pink" have been considered "pink" hundreds of years ago?
The "hot pink" section suggests that this is a modern shade; and by implication "traditional" pink would be "red + white". But the discussion in "Red + White = Pink" above suggests differently; that pink always *did* have an element of blue in it, and that the myth got started because the impure whites contained blue.
So I'm not clear on this; although I do know that the modern definition of pink covers more than "red + white".... Fourohfour 11:28, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] "tree with hot pink flowers"???
I think someone should do something about that rediculous pic of the "tree with hot pink flowers"...! looks like someone took a b/w pic of a tree & painted the flowers "hot pink"... hey i've an idea.. we can use the same pic for the "green" and "black" pages... ("tree with green flowers", and "tree with black flowers", etc)
Have a look at the discussion on the image page for this - it is not a painted image. It is designed to show a natural 'hot pink'. Oh and signing your name to comments would make your comment slightly more courteous (if not still your POV). 
VirtualSteve 08:01, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Emo in the bathtub?
I'm sorry, but I hardly think the latest slam joke is relevent "knowledge" for a wiki article... Let's go to the injury wiki and talk about all the injuries sustained by those one armed republicans in trees, why don't we?WhateverTS 18:14, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Section order
I re-ordered the sections to put the bulk of the prose at the top and the bulk of the color-palette boxes at the bottom. Johntex\talk 18:15, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Let's go back to the sources
The color pink is now associated with womanhood and little girls, just like light blue is associated with little boys and manhood. However, in 1918 "Infant's Department" (an industry publication) said the reverse was the "generally accepted rule", describing pink as "more decided and stronger" while blue was "more delicate and dainty" [1]
They cite <a href="http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=238733">this Google Answers question</a> to prove their point. Unfortunately, if you read all the way through that question, it is NOT true. Some of those quotations have apparently been made up. People have tracked down the issues that the quotes are said to come from, and discovered that nothing even similar is in those issues.
If this is still supposed to be accurate, we need a new citation. Made-up quotations will not work. 128.122.253.229 04:39, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] This is absurd
Has anyone read these pop culture sections? It's like some person just sat down and started thinking about everything with the word "pink" in it. Is Paris Hilton's supposed favorite color really encyclopedia worthy? I think a project to clean up the color articles should be started. --Demonesque 04:30, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
- Like Wikipedia:WikiProject Color for instance? Though starting a project is one thing, having it achieve anything is another. Notinasnaid 08:54, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
- I've given it a pruning, but really the WikiProject should set some kind of guideline for inclusion of the (sometimes important) cultural information. Notinasnaid 08:58, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Pink Primer
What is the accepted RGB colour of pink primer? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 202.12.144.21 (talk) 02:10, 8 February 2007 (UTC).
[edit] Vandalism
This article has been vandalized countless number of times. This article should be semi-protect.Sheitan 20:35, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] We need a citation for that??
In the gender section there is a request for a citation about ribbons used in babies, do actually need a citation like that, is so common logic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.241.255.250 (talk) 22:52, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
- Common logic in all cultures? Nil Einne 10:25, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Pink shirts
- and yet - with the adoption of the pink shirt in a variety of settings - pink shirts have now become the bench mark by which all shirts are tested.
I removed the somewhat dubious claim that pink shirts are the bench mark by which all shirts are tested. Perhaps it's true, I'm not very fashion savvy but it definitely needs a reference and it's dubious enough that it should go without one Nil Einne 10:25, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Baby colour coding
Pink is such an awesome colour but I think its obvious why its seen as a "feminine colour". At a young age girls are usually dressed in pink and boys in blue. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.253.106.28 (talk) 09:41, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Ladies' Home Journal misquoted?
The quote from the Ladies' Home Journal in the section on gender appears to have been inverted, at least according to this scan: http://www.badscience.net/wp-content/uploads/pinkorblue.JPG . Does somebody have a more reliable reference and want to correct this? Bmalee (talk) 17:40, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
