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Got info on where her singles were on the charts from: http://www.rockonthenet.com/artists-p/pink.htm

Might it be an idea to move this to P!nk? Earl Andrew 01:26, 11 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Am making some major cuts/revisions to make this more NPOV and a little more accurate. IE: I seriously doubt women at the "real Moulin Rouge" dressed like the girls in the video... Pacian 05:22, 11 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Contents 1 P!nk's Voice 2 P!nk v.s. Christina Aguilera 3 P!nk vs Christina Aguilera (????!!!) 4 Tour 5 Gay Icon Project 6 Confusing 7 Did pink only win ONE award during her career? 8 NEW ALBUM 9 Move to P!nk 10 Categories of Entry 11 Discography 12 Picture 13 Chart positions 14 Karaite 15 Mandy Moore's cousin 16 Dropped?? 17 Kristanna Loken 18 Bias 19 Requested move 19.1 Survey 19.2 Discussion 20 Smoking??????? 21 Nipple Piercing 22 Religion 23 Do not revert cleanup 24 Explanation for recent major edits and reverts 25 Inaccurate and irrelevant information inserted by Electric Storm89 and others 26 L.A. Reid statement incongruent 27 Genre 28 DVD Charts 29 Dear Mr. President 30 Discography section 31 Coming Soon (2007/2008) 32 Article vandalism 33 possible vandalism, or just plain stupidity 34 Why "Pink" 35 Fair use rationale for Image:Pink - Trouble.ogg 36 Bisexual, or at least LGBT 37 Pink's 5th album 38 Is Pink an only child? 39 "Alecia"

[edit] P!nk's Voice

Pink is an awesome singer. I hope her next album fuses Can't TAke Me Home, & Mizzunderstood sounds. Cause she sings so beautiful on those two albums the best. on Can't Take me Home in stop falling she sounds like Mariah and in the song Misery the soul in her voice is amazing. I sometimes think she's black the way she sings. an R&B, Pop, Rock album would be cool. And with her amazing songwriting skills would make it the best. That way she'd sing what fits her best with what she loves to do. So she could collaberate with her new producers and the new R&B producers. BUt if she takes this into considertaion i hope she does no collabs because she has that tru solo voice. I luv you P!nk. Does anyone agree or disagree

^Ah, why are you posting that here? This is an encyclopaedia. Not a forum. You're supposed to comment on the structure of the article in these talk pages, not randomly gush about the topic. Take it to a chat-room. Shaybear♥

Pink's vocal type is spinto soprano --172.130.251.51 00:16, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

I would disagree with you, I would say she is an Alto, due to the dark colouring of her voice, but meh you could be right, she smokes a hell of alot! 82.12.239.210 23:30, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] P!nk v.s. Christina Aguilera

I use to say Xtina hands down but something happened. I listened to Can't Take Me Home, and Mizzunderstood and i think P!nk has it. But after Try Thins, and I'm not dead no one will think like that. don't get me wrong she can sing rock. but it kinda takes away from what she can really do. songs like Family Portrait, Like A Pill, are rock songs that that reached even the urban audience because her singing there was still present but when she goes into the al out rock it can get uninteresting. I don't kno what she did on those first two albums but i love them. If she combined those she would blow Christina out of the water. For example

Belting: X-Tina-can sound harsh and offensive and can be too much(for example Ain't NO Other Man, And numerous live performances) P!nk-On songs like Stop Falling, Let Me Let You Know, Misery, P!nk's belting is impeccable and really crisp and clear. oh and P!nk belts words with clear pronunciation and dictation.

High Notes: X-Tina-though x-Tina has a higher range and her notes are higher. Now Christina can sing those high notes P!nk- she probably can't sing as high as X-Tina but when she does sing high its beautiful. She has such graceful transition through registers but then again so does X-Tina

Vocal Runs riffs X-Tina-She's famous for this and most notable for this one hands down. But think about. She can over do it at times and it can be annoying. P!nk- When she does it instead of you saying ouch you listen awe and are like wow.

Anyone else have some other catergories.

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 4.238.247.45 (talk • contribs) 01:30, 3 December 2006 (UTC).

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I agree 95% with you. P!nk has definetely been underated by her recent efforts, but I believe I'm Not Dead is her best album yet. Songs like 'who knew', 'nobody knows', and even the b-side to stupid girls; 'heartbreaker' are all amazing songs, but yes, showing off just a little more vocal ability would be nice. Can't Take Me Home, on the other hand, is my least favourite album of hers. Sure, she uses her vocal talent, but at that stage in her career she wasn't making beautiful, memorable ballads.

Now about Christina and P!nks voices. I believe P!nk has the more distinct voice, harsh yet soulful, while Christina just sounds like every other person who can sing. And sometimes Christina can go WAAAAAAAAAY overboard. I had a listen to some of the songs on Back to Basics, now try counting the amount of times she says 'oh' and 'yeah'; really annoying.203.214.81.95 08:39, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

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Uhmm no. Let's pretend for a moment you were right... I mean, you MUST be since she's won SOO many Grammies, right?? Ok that was unnecessary, BUT my point is P!nk has a great voice for the genre she sings and Christina has a great voice for the genre she sing.

P!nk's music is heavily rock-influenced pop, and her breathy vocals and small range are more than perfect for it, but that doesn't make her better than Christina. Christina, especially in Back to Basics, has made her music so as to resemble jazz, soul, blues, etc. If you know anything about those genres you know that her voice is marvelous for her genre as P!nk's is for the genre she does.

And just FWI, Christina does NOT sound like every other person who can sing. All her albums including her spanish album and "My Kind of Christmas", the first one being the only exception, feature strong vocals that have always drawn comparisons to soul singers and the such. She's like the middle point between a large black woman and Mariah Carey, which is FAR from usual.

I'm not saying P!nk's voice isn't unique, but if your gonna accuse her rival of lack of originality then you should at least consider the amount of people who use vocals like P!nk's. Pretty much all classic country singers. So... --Plavalagunanbanshee (talk) 23:03, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] P!nk vs Christina Aguilera (????!!!)

I bought her P!nk Live in Europe DVD and it seems to me that her feud with Christina Aguilera is kind of important to her. And I would say that given the discussion above, even her fans know it's a relevant part of her history. So my question is, WHY is there nothing about it in the article?!! --Plavalagunanbanshee (talk) 23:03, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tour

I have started the article about the tour and am now requesting help/information about it as I only have limited knowledge. Thanks

Tickets for australia are on sale this friday, tour here starts april to may. IM GOING YAY! Check ticket tek 210.49.194.248 07:57, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Gay Icon Project

In my effort to merge the now-deleted list from the article Gay icon to the Gay icons category, I have added this page to the category. I engaged in this effort as a "human script", adding everyone from the list to the category, bypassing the fact-checking stage. That is what I am relying on you to do. Please check the article Gay icon and make a judgment as to whether this person or group fits the category. By distributing this task from the regular editors of one article to the regular editors of several articles, I believe that the task of fact-checking this information can be expedited. Thank you very much. Philwelch 21:50, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Confusing

"Pink is one of the only female-solo artists to have 9 top 10 hits in the U.K."

What does this mean? Either she is the ONLY such artist?, Or ONE OF a few such artists?

Also, the article is confusing re all the links to Gay and LGBT categories at the end, but no mention of her sexual orientation in the article.

According to the NNBD link, she's bisexual. I've never heard that before; someone should try to clear this up. Chatoyant 19:58, Jun 25, 2005 (UTC)pink is not

bysexual she is trisexual she has already stated that she will try anything once and her and carey look at girls together but she has never stated she is by  :Talk about confusing: Pink was Punk'd very badly. Did she really break up afterwards?

[edit] Did pink only win ONE award during her career?

Just curious. When I read her article, it only mentioned her winning a grammy for a collabration. Surely she might have won more than that. Can you let me know if she won any other awards?

[edit] NEW ALBUM

Her new album is called Im not dead could someone change that! --L.a.m.b 18:03, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Categories of Entry

Her father is of German-Irish descent. Does this make her a German-American singer? Same with Irish-American singer. I'll remove those categories if there are no objections. -- Hey Teacher 12:00, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

You should. I don't think someone should be categorized as a "something-American" unless they have at least one parent of that group, or if less they should somehow identify. From what I can tell, if anything, she identifies as Jewish or "half-Jewish". Mad Jack O'Lantern 07:36, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, I just removed those two categories. -- Hey Teacher 09:52, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

In the Wikipedia a person is categorized as "Jewish-American something" if they have a Jewish grandparent or perhaps great-grandparent (that's why those categories are extremely big). Why was the category "Jewish-American singers" not removed? Pink is not Jewish; her mother is of Jewish and Lithuanian descent - while her father is of German and Irish. She is as German and Irish as she is Jewish. The definition of German Americans is Americans of German descent.

It was claimed in the article that she identified as Jewish (although having no religion!), but nothing in the source indicated this (it did only deal with her mother), so the false claim was removed.

Here is what she herself said about her nationality: "I’m Irish-German-Lithuanian-Jew." (Q Magazine Transcript from March 2004 [1] [2]

There is a claim that she is a vegan... I have not found anything to support that claim. If support is not found, she should be removed from the category.-- Zachyzz 16:58, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Discography

Someone changed the discography. I know why the person did this but i don't agree, it did look better with the chart positions attached to it. Lillygirl 7:11, 30 April 2006

Don't worry, I put back the chart positions--hottie 18:35, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Picture

Why does the picture keep changing? Keep it at a decent picture, recomended to have been proffesionally taken.

[edit] Chart positions

Hotwiki (talk) has reverted my removal of chart positions, claiming that the information seem accurate. However, this information was disputed more than a week ago as it does not seem right to me. It is often changed and there is no source for the information. Now, I'm quite happy to let the information stand but only if we can come up with a source that confirms the chart positions. Otherwise, Wikipedia policy says it should be removed as it is not cited and the information is disputed. To be clear, however, I believe Hotwiki is a good editor. I simply do not agree that the information looks accurate and nobody responded to the request that it be cited. As this is currently a dispute, however, I will not remove the chart positions again for several days. --Yamla 18:55, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Why don't you try to use yahoo search I'm sure you could find a site with accurate chart positions, I visited a site where all europeans chart positions are there too bad I forgot the link. There's billboard.com for U.S chart positions. Thanks that you called me a good editor I'm about to cry Lol --hottie 00:01, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Karaite

Does anyone have a source for that she is of Karaite descent? Mad Jack 19:22, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mandy Moore's cousin

Someone just added that, and it has the air of false information. Who revealed it on TRL? What airdate? What else did they say about it? Mad Jack 01:29, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

It's true! I've read it in numerous magazines and P!nk has confirmed it herself in an interview awhile back. User:XBohemian 06:15, 7 July 2007

[edit] Dropped??

I Read some-where that pink was being dropped because of low album sales - any-one verify this??

Her album sales have been very high, just not in America. So I doubt it. Phoenix1304 21:48, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kristanna Loken

Didn't she have sex with Kristanna Loken? 1 shouldn't there be something about that in here, or even a personal life category? ~ Unfortunate

Probably should be! be bold and add it yourself. Mad Jack 20:00, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Speaking of which, is there a realiable source that confirms that she is bisexual? Otherwise, the LGBT and bisexual categories should probably be removed because it's speculation. -→Buchanan-Hermit™/?! 01:46, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Pink just said on True Hollywood story on Entertainment TV said that it was just a kiss.

I know there's been a lot of speculation about her sexuality, but to list her or categorize her as being bisexual, Wikipedia requires a statement in her own words confirming that she actually identifies as such. Bearcat 00:44, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

In a Playboy interview, she clearly said that she is not into women. Wryspy 09:15, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bias

Please can someone edit the beginning of this artical for bias? 82.0.69.6 12:03, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Wow, thanks for pointing that out. Most of the changes made by 81.157.208.221 went unnoticed for some reason. I changed them all back, so I think it should be good now. — ShadowHalo 02:42, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Requested move

[edit] Smoking???????

In a smash hits pepsi video about p!nk going on tour in America. Episode 1 near to the end of the video it shows p!nk lighting a cigarette. 04/11/06Alecia Beth Moore 11:37, 5 November 2006 (UTC) Alecia Beth Moore

May I ask what your point is? That is evidence only that she lit a cigarette in a video. Nothing more, nothing less. To claim otherwise is original research.-Localzuk^(talk) 12:35, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nipple Piercing

Should there be somethin added in the trivia section about her having her nipple pierced? (Piercing Video Link)

Should there be something added in the trivia section about when she goes to bed, gets up, having breakfast, brushing teeth, shopping with mom, watching tv, reading books... 88.73.50.81 22:18, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

There really shouldn't be a trivia section at all. Please see Wikipedia:Avoid trivia sections in articles. ShadowHalo 12:05, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Religion

The citation following the line:

[i]"Pink herself does not adhere to any organized religion."[/i]

...actually says she claims to be Jewish? It certainly doesn't support the statement that she does not adhere to any organized religion. Someone might want to look into that. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by AbstractClass (talk • contribs) 16:52, 19 December 2006 (UTC).

I'll change it, slightly Mad Jack 06:15, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

pink and her real name!!!!! omg her real name

[edit] Do not revert cleanup

Last night, I spent a good two hours cleaning up spelling, grammatical flubs, and getting rid of incorrect and/or redundant tidbits that had littered the article. Case in point: Pink didn't "leave" or "switch" from LaFace or Arista. LaFace was absorbed into Arista Records after her debut album was released...which was why her second and third albums were released by the latter. LaFace was reactivated and all of its acts (Pink included) returned to the company.

Keep the article simple. One of the worst things about Wikipedia is when fans show up and want to clutter up the articles by adding a bunch of meticulous information. The Real One Returns 21:48, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Explanation for recent major edits and reverts

Well, at least two editors have chosen to revert wholesale my recent major edits to this article without any explanation or edit summary whatsoever, so here goes:

1. Wikipedia:Lead section recommends that the intro sentence be as concise as possible. Mentioning things such as Grammys and album sales stops that from happening.
2. In accordance with Wikipedia:Naming conventions, stylised typography should not be replicated, so her stage name should be written as Pink, not P!nk. This is the reason the article was moved from P!nk to Pink (singer).
   • not to mention the move request above! Taalo 01:14, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
3. Removed a lot of excessive detail, some of which was largely unrelated to Pink, such as Moulin Rouge! being the best-selling album of 2001 in Australia. The significance (if any) of what Pink and co. wore in the "Lady Marmalade" video wore wasn't made clear in the article, so I removed the mention of that as well. This is what album and song articles are for. The I'm Not Dead section was particularly cluttered with factoids and trivia that are better suited to other articles.
4. Removed the decorative music video screenshots in compliance with Wikipedia:Fair use criteria. Any unfree "fair use" images must contribute significantly to the article; for example, if the "God Is a DJ" video was discussed in the article, the screenshot could stay, but it isn't even mentioned. This applies to the gallery of album covers in the discography section as well.
5. Lots of wikilink, grammar, spelling, category (Jewish American singers is a subcategory of Jewish American musicians - no need to list them both!) and formatting fixes besides; boldfacing/highlighting number-one chart positions and award wins violated WP:NPOV, for example. Also, "Last to Know" wasn't released as a single in the U.S., precluding any chance it may have had to enter the top forty on the Hot 100. Extraordinary Machine 21:00, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Another near-wholesale revert, with no justification here or anywhere else. Look, if editors explained to me why they were reverting, I'd really appreciate it, but if they don't I see no reason not to restore my changes, for which I've provided explanations above. If I haven't made those explanations clear or detailed enough, please tell me. Extraordinary Machine 21:44, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Inaccurate and irrelevant information inserted by Electric Storm89 and others

I would like to ask Electric Storm89 (talk · contribs) and others to make sure information they are inserting and changing is a) correct and b) relevant in an article about Pink. Pink was not signed to LaFace after she recorded the album with Choice; Choice signed with LaFace, then Pink remained with LaFace after Choice broke up. "Lady Marmalade" was originally by Labelle the group, not Patti LaBelle. These are just two of many examples. And readers don't need to know that Pink claimed she was drunk during her MTV VMAs acceptance speech, or that she learnt to harmonise to "I Have Seen the Rain". That's what other articles are for. Extraordinary Machine 13:47, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] L.A. Reid statement incongruent

I was very confused by the statement "According to VH1 Driven, L.A. Reid wasn't initially content with the new music she was making." It sounds like this is an article about Antonio Reid and that he is a female. I had to research the context and who this Reid was, for that matter, before I understood it. I will try to make this sentence fit within the context of the article a little better. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ralraz (talk • contribs) 09:58, 12 April 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Genre

P!nk's genre has changed substantially during her eras. Although it's undeniably "pop" in standard, would there be any more specific transition in the genres we could use? For example, "I'm Not Dead" uses a lot more punk/funk/soul/electro elements than do her earlier albums. Would there be a more precise genre besides "Pop rock"?

[edit] DVD Charts

This week P!nk's 'Live From Wembley Arena" DVD debuted at number one on the ARIA DVD charts taking the number one spot from her previous Live DVD: "Live In Europe". "Live in Europe" is now sitting at number 2.

I think this information is quite important, it reflects the success and impact P!nk has made in Australia. So if you're reading this, add it somewhere as I don't know how to.

• I've added it...but this page isn't there to show how big she is in Australia....

Electric Storm89 15:11, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dear Mr. President

I read that this song and video was banned from the U.S. Is that true?--Kingforaday1620 22:24, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Discography section

I know that "Leave me alone (I'm lonely)" wasnt released world wide, but it was released in australia and NZ, and it has been a hit here reaching number 5 on the aria charts. I think It should be added to the singles section, what do you guys think? 130.194.13.101 00:50, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Coming Soon (2007/2008)

In the list of P!nk's studio albums, someone has added 'Coming Soon (2007/2008)'. Is this true?! Is there really a new album on the way or has some inconsiderate hoon written that to tease us all?

Hmmm, it seems to be gone now... no new album :(

Actually, there is. She's said she'll start writing for her fifth album by the end of January. Phoenix1304 (talk) 05:23, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Article vandalism

The 2nd paragraph of the article has a phrase that seems to be a vandalism:

In 2001, she participated in the worldhit single Lady Marmalade, and soon after became known throughout the United States and later throughout europe as an ignorant fool.

I did a strikethru on the final 3 words because I don't know what to substitute, but I wanted to draw someone's attention to the vandalism.

It now reads: In 2001, she participated in the worldhit single Lady Marmalade, and soon after became known throughout the United States and later throughout europe as an ignorant fool.

Also: what is a "worldhit single"? Should that be three words rather than two? Jennifer Brooks 19:33, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

I've corrected this, and posted a message about it on your Talk page. Terraxos 03:02, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] possible vandalism, or just plain stupidity

in the very first paragraph, the last sentence reads "[pink] is the daughter of pink floyd". i wasnt sure if this is vandalism, or just somebody whos just incredibly dumb, considering pink floyd wasnt even a person, it was the name of a freaking band. i didnt wanna just edit it out since i didnt know if id get in trouble with wikipedia or not. but ya, just so somebody knows and is anle to do something about it.

I removed this passage from "Childhood and Discovery:" "She's also said to have attempted committing suicide 5 times, and at one point tried to strangle her neighbours dog." as it sounds dubious, has no source and I can't find any external source on the internet. Feel free to add it in if you find a source. 18:55, 19 February 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.183.81.3 (talk)

[edit] Why "Pink"

I'm surprised this article doesn't explain (or offer stories about) why she is called "Pink". That's what I came here to find out... GreenAsJade 10:09, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

There have been several stories. The most common one was that she picked it from the character Mr. Pink in the movie Reservoir Dogs. L. A. says she came in one day saying she wanted to be called Mr. Pink. In an interview with Playboy, however, she said it had to do with a black friend's observation about the appearance of her white girl genitalia. Wryspy 20:17, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Pink - Trouble.ogg

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[edit] Bisexual, or at least LGBT

We know you married your long-term beau, Carey Hart, last year, but have you had sexual relationships with women in the past?

I don’t like to talk about my private life too much, but I have, yeah. My first girlfriend actually really fucked my head up – she left me for my brother. I was only 14 at the time, but I still find it pretty gross. I could have understood her running off with a friend or classmate, but to go from kissing me to kissing my brother? Ugh.

How old were you when you first realised you were attracted to women?

The first time I really noticed another girl, I was 12 and used to go dancing at my local gay club. It wasn’t the best club I’ve ever been to, but the atmosphere was fantastic. I remember just dancing for hours and feeling really free.

What kind of ladies do you go for?

I don’t have a specific type when it comes to men or women. They can be blonde, brunette, butch or femme. The main thing is whether or not they have a great personality and a sick sense of humour.

Do you identify yourself as bisexual or queer?

I don’t like labels; they’re too easy. I’m just about good energy and good feelings. A lot of people feel the need to split the world into heterosexuals and homosexuals, but I really believe we’re all trisexual. The most interesting people I know are ones who refuse to categorise or define themselves by their desires.

from [3]

She is also listed in the "List of bisexual people" Raven. 03:11, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Pink's 5th album

Someone find a citation for this please! 72.240.163.23 (talk) 09:44, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Why has this been removed? 84.12.137.68 (talk) 18:52, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Because it was sitting there for weeks without a source. No source, no mention in the article. Phoenix1304 (talk) 11:39, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Is Pink an only child?

It doesnt mention anything about her having any brothers or sisters on this article. Is she really an only child? --72.230.46.168 (talk) 15:29, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Pink has one sibling. A brother named Jason.84.12.137.68 (talk) 11:13, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] "Alecia"

I've heard that the title for her new album is simply Alecia. Has anyone else heard this, or is it just gossip? Phoenix1304 (talk) 18:11, 29 April 2008 (UTC)