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Couldn't we get a picture of this friendly guy? abelson 11:59, May 17, 2005 (UTC)

There's no shortage of them on the web, and most of them would pass as fair use. There's always, this image already used in the Hellraiser article. It could be used here too easily enough. Motor 18:40, 2005 May 17 (UTC)

Contents 1 Tone 2 Request sourcing 3 Philosophy of Pain? 4 Banners 5 Problems 6 Another appearance 7 Fair use rationale for Image:Hr2-spenser.jpg 8 Unsourced speculation 9 Saying Pinhead is 'Xipe Totec' 10 Name and Face

[edit] Tone

What's wrong with the tone of this article? --Myles Long 22:03, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Sorry, just thought it needed a little re-writing. I made some changes; some sentences are still a little awkward though. Dariob 19:15, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Request sourcing

Could someone please indicate which of the movies (or whatever) provides the various bits of information in this article--as well as the quotes? It would be a much more useful page if it cited sources. Nareek 19:00, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Philosophy of Pain?

Is there such a topic as the Philosophy of Suffering and/or Pain?

Pain (philosophy)

[edit] Banners

Does anyone think it might be better to just have one "banner" at the top of the article saying it needs cleanup, and then list the problems here on the Talk page? It seems excessive to have four notices at the top of the article. Mus Musculus 12:18, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Problems

Disguising the "biography" section with the word "fictional" doesn't change the fact that it's written in an "in-universe" tone. He isn't real, so you don't write it as if he actually did it. You write it as "film appearances" or "literature appearances" and then you break it down (not with subheadings, but with paragraphs) by each appearance.

Example

"Pinhead made his first appearance in Cliver Barker's Hellraiser, although he wasn't referred to by the name "Pinhead" in the credits. In this film he was summoned by Kirsty Cotton, by accident...."

"In his second appearance....."

They should be a condensed version of the plot of the film. They should be in no way as long as something that would be in a film article, because you are just talking about the one character. As for the "original research", if you don't cite a source for all that other information, like "personality", then it's original research.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 11:10, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Another appearance

I recall seeing a character on The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy who seemed to be a spoof of Pinhead, i.e. he had bowling pins sticking out of his head, but I don't know enough about the episode to add it to the "Other Appearances" category. If someone feels it qualifies as an appearance and knows more about it, please add it.

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Hr2-spenser.jpg

Image:Hr2-spenser.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

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BetacommandBot 01:44, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Unsourced speculation

I plan to remove the entry under the Other Appearences section that connects Pinhead to Metal Gear Solid unless someone can provide a reliable source for it. Having just a physical resemblence and nothing else makes it a weak connection. --ArdClose (talk) 14:30, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Saying Pinhead is 'Xipe Totec'

In the article it references pinhead as being an incarnation of the central american god Xipe Totec while this may have been the intention of the artists and writers of the comic book series, it doesn't bear scrutiny. In the 'Clive Barker's Pinhead' comics, he is depicted as a central american warrior named Xipe Topec (note the 'p'. I have a scan of the page here: http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii115/seburiel/xipetopec.jpg so I changed the entry to reflect this. Seburiel (talk) 03:31, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Name and Face

Didn't this article used to have a picture of him before he became a cenobite? And what's his original name? I think it might be Elliot, but I can't remember the source. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.202.0.118 (talk) 21:51, 25 May 2008 (UTC)