Talk:Ping (blogging)

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I added all of the ping servers I had in my possession in the hope that there might be a good list out there that is maintained and current and useful. Chrisabraham 04:21, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Conflict of Interest -> Pinging Servers ?

"There is a conflict of interest here between the blogger--who wants his new post to get the widest possible publicity as fast as possible--and the web-service owner--who wants his search engine or aggregator to have new blog posts long before anyone else. As a result, bloggers have turned to services such as Ping-o-matic, which pings multiple proprietary ping servers."

I don't follow the logic of that statement. -- Craigtalbert 16:27, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

The "client" of the old model public ping-server--e.g. weblogs.com--was the blogger who posted something and pinged them. What did that blogger want? To be read by as many people as possible, as fast as possible. Thus old ping-servers gave out their results to all comers equally.

The "client" of the new model proprietary ping-server is the web-service that owns the ping-server. And the different web-service categories all compete to please customers who subscribe to web-feeds in an newsreader.What does that subscriber want? To get fast acccurate news as soon as stuff happens. Suppose I subscribe to a search for "Karl Rove" in two different web services, call them Foodster and Trotti, but all I get from Trotti is posts that Foodster told me about two hours ago--won't I quickly stop bothering to read Trotti? In other words, if Trotti sets up its own ping-server and tries to motivate bloggers to ping them directly, Trotti has zero motivation to share the pings it gets with its rivals at Foodster.

Now, if I am a technically-skilled blogger, I could try to set up my blog to ping all the different web-services, one by one, every single time I post. And I could then try to keep track of new services that i should start pinging in order to add them. But it's much easier to rely on a service whose bread and butter is keeping up with all such changes. The "client" of a service like Ping-o-matic is, once again, the blogger who posts and want to get that information out fast to all the people who want to read it. betsythedevine 20:51, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

The "conflict of interest" in the article confused me too, but your explanation was enlightening. I will try to clarify this sentence in the article. --- Arancaytar - avá artanhé (reply) 15:58, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] List of ping servers

I am skeptical of the extreme number of external links scattered throughout the article, especially the exhaustive list of ping servers in the middle of the text. I would move this list to a separate section. --- Arancaytar - avá artanhé (reply) 09:34, 12 March 2008 (UTC)