Talk:Pinewood derby

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[edit] Other pine car races

Other than Awana races being called "Awana Grand Prix", does anybody have any information on what the races held by Royal Ambassadors or Royal Rangers are called? Or what about any other groups that have similar races? If there is enough material available, I'll split this out into a separate, more generic article about pine car racing. Otherwise, I'll just leave it as bullet points at the bottom of this article. Joe 14:31, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

Royal Rangers uses the term "Pinewood Derby". It is on all of our official merchandise that comes from our national headquarters.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bubbabear (talk • contribs) 15:23, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Bitter Point of View

I edited this a bit to take out redundant information and some apparent bitterness about adults that are too involved or judging that is unfair (Dad? Was that you?)

If this information should go in, maybe there should be a separate "controversy" section. Oddmountain 23:22, 23 March 2007 (UTC)oddmountain- oddmountain

I put back one of the deleted sentences and expanded while trying to keep the controversial/bitter aspect NPOV. --Kkmurray 00:49, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
I think that works Oddmountain 23:22, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Universal Rules?

Some of the rules listed are worded so that they seem to apply to all BSA derbies. My understanding is that packs set their own rules. The local pack here does not allow any modifications to the wheels or axles for racing cars. Wheels may be modified if you are only entering the appearance competition. Am I mistaken about this? Oddmountain 23:30, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

I changed "most rules" to "some rules", which is all you can say without doing a survey. You are correct that rules are set on the pack or district level. The Virtual Cub Scout Leader Website has some good information on this. --Kkmurray 19:37, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
I'm more concerned about the "Car Modification" section, especially sentences like "wheel tread can be sanded or lathed and the inner surface of the hub can be coned to minimize the contact area between the hub and body." I realize it is saying that the wheels can physically be altered this way, but I think it also implies that they can legally be modified, which isn't always the case. I added a disclaimer sentence. 70.226.5.103 02:35, 25 March 2007 (UTC)Oddmountain

[edit] Electronics

The Pinewood Derby page does not touch on the revolution that has occured over the last 5 to 10 year in the use of electronics and computers for judging the racing in a fair and systematic way. I feel that the flavor of today's typical event could be noted without harming the basic ideas behind the event. Truth in packaging requires me to identify myself as a producer of such electronics (http://www.newdirections.ws). and it is not my intention to self-promote. However, the typical Pinewood Derby is conducted these days with electronic finish lines, derby management software, video projectors, audio, cameras, remote control starting, light trees, etc. I think that some reference to the state of the art should be in order. Shreff 01:21, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Feel free to add content. Input fitting with WP:NOT#SOAPBOX will be appreciated. --Kkmurray 05:02, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Advertisement

Looks like a bunch of advertising type material has crept in. This needs to be dug out quickly. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 16:22, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cub Scout Pinewood Derby Pamphlet

Looks like there is an official Cub Scout Pinewood Derby Pamphlet, #33721A. [1] This might be a good reference. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 13:08, 12 September 2007 (UTC)