User talk:Pieuvre

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[edit] Welcome! (We can't say that loudly enough!)

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We're so glad you're here! GreenJoe 03:09, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for your welcome! Pieuvre 21:05, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Clarification

Again and again, you've failed to see it was a mistake from me to mention "Quebec" from that motion. You also fail to understand my "interpetions". And you also failed to see I do know how the Wiki works (to show facts for readers to judge, eh?) And you're moving too far from RfC topic. I already gave my comment (as requested here) that I think there is no need to provide a reference next to "nation" in the intro as the fact itself is already linked in the word "nation" (unless you're going to ask me to provide a source defining what is a nation). The motion of the Parliament is already mentioned further down the article itself. I'm not going to repeat myself in RfC. Pieuvre 20:26, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

So you're admitting to making a mistake; well that's very admirable of you. As for your interpretation, like I've been stating all along, it is irrelevant just as mine is - we must stick to the facts. Lastly, the stand-alone word "nation" does not need to be sourced, but what needs to be sourced is the statement "Quebec is a nation" - there's a big difference. To claim that Quebec is a nation is a pretty big claim and as per Wikipedia policy such claims need to be referenced with multiple reliable and verifiable sources. Wikilinking the word nation does not meet these criteria as Wikipedia articles are not considered reliable. — Dorvaq (talk) 01:32, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

I admitted it a while ago with a "whoops" as the starter. You just had a little trouble noticing it. I was trying to be as suggestive as possible to try to hear your and the others' ideas: What kind of source should we be looking for to back it up? You asked for a poll (I provided another...I missed the word "Canadian" despite reading over and over to check). But what else? Now I'm starting to understand that the references to two motions passed by the provincial and federal legislature should be considered since they're a strong reference, no?Pieuvre 02:50, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
I had noticed. My multiple attempts at clarifying were directed at the other two editors who ran with the idea using your source. As for what types of references to use, it depends on what you want to say. If you are going to use that "the Quebecois are a nation", the CBC article and perhaps a direct reference to the motion would be more than enough, as the statement alone is not an exceptional claim. Now if you want to say that the Province of Quebec is a nation, then a direct and *official* statement from the Government of Canada recognizing Quebec as a nation will be necessary. — Dorvaq (talk) 13:09, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
Now I'm inclined to agree. My apologies if I sounded way too fustrated. Glad we can sort this out! Pieuvre 16:14, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Prince Edward Island

Just to let you know of a new WikiProject Prince Edward Island that has just been created. As you have shown an interest in the creation and editing of Prince Edward Island articles, you are cordially invited to join.SriMesh | talk 04:06, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Germany Invitation

Hello, Pieuvre! I'd like to call your attention to the WikiProject Germany and the German-speaking Wikipedians' notice board. I hope their links, sub-projects and discussions are interesting and even helpful to you. If not, I hope that new ones will be.

--Zeitgespenst (talk) 23:52, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] An upset vandal after being reverted constantly

SI TU PENSES QUE LE QUÉBEC N'EST PAS UNE NATION ALORS TU ES DANS L'ERREUR. CE N'EST PAS DE LA PROPAGANDE SÉPARATISTE , C'EST UN FAIT QUE DES CANADIENS TENTENT ENCORE DE NIER. LAISSE NOUS TRANQUILLE. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.83.226.185 (talk) 17:47, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

S'il vous plaît, il est inderdit qu'on chiale dans mon talk page. Je ne mettrai pas mes points de vue dans le Wikipédia. Bonne journée./Please, it's forbidden that we moan in my talk page. I'll never put my point of views in the Wiki. Good day. Pieuvre (talk) 04:44, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Saying hello

Hello Pieuvre. I wonder if you would translate Pgsylv's posting at my page (as I don't know the French language). Perhaps even translate his postings at talk: Quebec, aswell. Thanks. GoodDay (talk) 17:44, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, Pieuvre. GoodDay (talk) 20:17, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, my mistake. It's some of his responses at his personal page, that he's used 'French'. I'm guessing, only an Administrator is allowed to make changes on User pages. PS- You have a nice day too. GoodDay (talk) 20:27, 17 February 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Informations?

Having grown up in PA "all your life," how come you seem to say "informations" and "homeworks" as an imperfectly bilingual Québécois would. Information and homework are singulare tantums (mass nouns) in English. G. Csikos, 18 February 2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.239.84.115 (talk) 23:16, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

They sound fine to me and it's up to the speaker to make them plural or not. If you don't believe me, good for you...I'm under no obligation to prove myself to an unsigned IP. Pieuvre (talk) 03:32, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Please, I'm using my real name. What city in PA are you from? By the way, I grew up in NJ. G. Csikos, 19 February 2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.245.242.195 (talk) 06:02, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
I didn't see your real name. Sorry. I'm from Mountain Top, which is near Wilkes-Barre. By the way, if I was too cold, sorry, but I got suspicious at what you were trying to imply. Please realize that I haven't been exposed much to English for over two years now, so sometimes French might slip in my mind when I'm away from the real environment of my native language. Pieuvre (talk) 06:26, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Pgsylv

Hi, I think you might want to comment here. nat.utoronto 22:46, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Quebec page compromise

Ramdrake and I have reached a compromise. We'd like a strong consensus, so please comment. --soulscanner (talk) 17:09, 27 February 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Wikipedia:Meetup/Montreal

I see you are a user located in Montréal, you may be interested in: Wikipedia:Meetup/Montreal. Please add your name to the "Interested" or to the "Not interested" list. Date is set for May 3rd 2008 and Buffet La Stanza is the proposed location. If you have another idea for the location; propose away! Please pass on to any Montreal Wikis you maybe aware of and who are not yet listed as interested, may be interested, or not interested. Pro bug catcher (talk • contribs). 04:48, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Lobby

Hi Pieuvre

Please see discussions between myself and user talk:Jhall1 re S J de L. He lived and worked in England and this is English Wiki. Have you a specific interest in the person that can inform the article, or are you just making an assumption? Regards Motmit (talk) 12:43, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi - The article on the Canadian premier H J de L refers to S J de L as his grandson. The intervening son of H J de L (and father of S J de L) was another H J de L who was a Brigadier-General in the British Army. (all a bit confusing). You are absolutely correct to put the accent on father and grandfather. However equally there should be no accent on the references when there is no accent on the original article title. There was no accent anywhere within the article where he gave a speech in Canada which I took as proof for the Anglicising. I wish I knew his own preference. Putting accents in English names is a battle between printer's typesetting and a slight pretension on the part of the user. I am making a sociological point, without reference to this conversation, when I say that in England those who think they are being sophisticated would put an accent on a name of French origin, whereas those who are sophisticated would know how to pronounce it without needing the accent - if you see what I mean. Regards Motmit (talk) 07:27, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi Pieuvre - thanks for fixing that. I assumed good faith and your edits have been useful. I hope you found the article on Lobby interesting. I have (sort of) adopted the occasional new user, so if you need any advice I would be glad to help out - not that I have been here much longer than you probably. Unfortunately there are one or two people out there with ethnocentric axes to grind (like changing Scottish names to Gaelic) and of course this provokes strong reactions. So I would say carry on being bold, but be careful and don't take it to heart if some one else does not assume good faith. Regards Motmit (talk) 10:40, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Jefferson's VP disqualification

From Talk:United States presidential election, 1792

You know, the "different state" maxim has been so engrained in elections for so long, I forgot its origin. It actually wasn't until 1804 and the passing of the Twelfth Amendment that the President and Vice President had to be from different states (kinda, sorta).

The Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves;

I guess before then, it was only a ticket-balancing issue, and there was nothing to preclude that. I therefore request you disregard that section of my questioning.--Tim Thomason 04:15, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Wow, I leant something new today. Thank you anyway and I'll heed to your request. Cheers. Pieuvre (talk) 08:50, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hello!

Hello! Are you interested in a serious Wikimeetup? --Creamy!Talk 01:53, 4 June 2008 (UTC)