Talk:Pierre Amine Gemayel

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[edit] Disambiguation page

There is a discrepancy between the disambiguation page Gemayel and this article as to who his father was. The disambiguation page says his father was Pierre, while the article says it was Amine. If his father was Amin(e) then the article name of Pierre Gemayel (Son) is inappropriate. 194.72.35.70 15:15, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

  • Yes, I created the page when I thought it was the son of the late Pierre Gemayel. If anyone has suggestions for the title of a new page, let me know and I will move it. Thanks! --Daysleeper47 15:23, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
    • Pierre Gemayel (junior) is possibly better. Do we know his date of birth? Fys. “Ta fys aym”. 15:29, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
      • Well, he isn't a true 'Junior' because he isn't the son of Pierre Gemayel but rather the grandson. Sounds better and is more clear than (son) however. I think Pierre Gemayel, Jr. works too--Daysleeper47 15:36, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Age

Based on AFP's report that Pierre Gemayel was 34 when he died, that places his date of birth at 1972. So the choice is Pierre Gemayel (junior) or Pierre Gemayel (1972-2006) or some variant thereon. Fys. “Ta fys aym”. 15:36, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Too little, too late

Well, it seems someone has taken care of this for us. Next time, Themalau, please move the page, don't just use a redirect and merge. It saves all of the edits that way.--Daysleeper47 15:40, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Now we're all on the same page (!)

This sentence is unclear: "taking advantage that the opposing list, an alliance between Michel Aoun and Michel Murr had a vacant seat". Possibly needs a comma after 'Murr'. But how can an alliance have a vacant seat? Could the author please clarify? - Earthlyreason

[edit] Pierre Ishmail Gemayel

Looks as if the above needs merging or deletion...?  Unsure, David Kernow (talk) 17:43, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

  • For the second time, I personally redirected to the Amine article. I know that someone else had done it before as well.--Daysleeper47 18:02, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Why is the page title in the browser under Pierre Ishmail Gemayel? Lauren Kendall 19:55, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

hmmm... problem solved, looks like it's just been changed. Lauren Kendall 19:57, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Assasination day?:

I read in the lebanese blog (http://www.lebop.blogspot.com/) in the comment section of the article, an anti syrian statement, saying on this date more people have been assasinated. Last year a dutch writer/journalist has been assasinated on the day he published a book 10 year before. I think also a few years ago a person was killed in libanon on the same day.So perhaps its worth mentioning, also it apparently happened on the same place, as another attack. Note as a method of intimidation (or also obscuring the perpetrators by identifying them with ones implied before?). One question that arises, is isn't it so that people would need to be rather in control of the place to plan so thoroughly? I'll follow up if i find more precise info. Exactly 17 years ago, president Rene Moawad was assasinated80.57.243.174 07:01, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Could you give me a source where Gemayel is referenced as "Pierre Ishmael Gemayel"? Google gives 0 Hits. I'll delete it unless someone proves that Ishmael is part of his name. (According to WP:RFD, a redirect could be deleted if The redirect might cause confusion or The redirect makes no sense). CG 13:30, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Confusing quote that was unsourced

I removed "qualifying it as "an act of terrorism at a particularly bad time." here. Two main reasons. Firstly, the source doesn't include that quote. Secondly, it was rather confusing. Unless Blair and the White House issued a joint statement or they both happened to come up with the exact same words, then it only applies to one of them but way it was written would suggest it's something they both said. Which one actually said it (if any) I have no idea, since it was unsourced, I can't find out. Nil Einne 09:04, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Oh and BTW, the fact that Blair condemnded the killing is also unsourced but I have no doubt it's true so I'll leave it there until someone can find a source Nil Einne 09:08, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Yahoo News as source

Yahoo News as a source is a bad source, since all links are loosing validity two weeks after publishing. Please look for other sources of the informations. --213.155.224.232 13:58, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tomb

Where was he interred?

[edit] Problems with Ya Libnan story

Let's get this straight: Ya Libnan reports that Al Sessayah reports that a libanese newspaper was called by a SANA editor investigating about the assasination before it happened. This sourcing isn't much better than pure rumour, total hearsay. Where is the original article in Al Sessayah? Why isn't there an article by the Lebanese newspaper? Why didn't other media pick this up? So far, we don't know which employee at what Lebanese newspaper leaked this to Al Seyassah, if the caller has been positively IDed as a SANA editor, and if the whole story isn't just an accident triggered by different time zones. Imho this information is so weakly sourced, it should be deleted from this article, if this can't be confirmed with other sources. 81.14.166.82 10:43, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Ok, the original story has been linked. I would be much happoer about a source that could actually be read by the average reader, though. I don't know if this arabic report really states what is claimed in the article. :( 81.14.166.82 12:53, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
The Ya Libnan source serves as a translation for readers who cannot consume the Arabic version. The difference between Ya Libnan and other Lebanese news sources is that YL is independent while the majority are operated by politicians. Furthermore, Lebanese editors regularly receive phone calls and open threats regarding the content they publish vis a vis the Syrian regime, it would not surprise me if there was a concerted effort to supress this story. In conclusion, at least the information included from Ya Libnan has a source, while the stereotypical response to instantly blame the Mossad has no source.
[1] another article about multiple parties having motives. This one published in a credible US newspaper.