Talk:Piano Sonata No. 5 (Beethoven)

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[edit] Little Patethique nickname"

"Indeed, this sonata has been christened 'The Little Pathétique'"

By f%$*$#ing WHO?!?!?!?! -- (Special:Contributions/149.4.111.77)

OKAY, SERIOUSLY?! There is no citation. It is completely subjective. The comments, in general, are so general they could be said about ANY Sonata (not even just by Beethoven). And yet, when it gets removed it just arbitrarily gets called "vandalism." Does anyone actually fucking read??? -- (Special:Contributions/4.172.204.214)
I'm inclined to side with the anons here. I've never seen this nickname. If its a real nickname, then someone should have used it. There are many books on the Beethoven sonatas available for citing. Wikipedia is the #1 google hit for this topic now, and we owe it to people to back up the facts here with citations. Yes, there are similarities between the C minor works but they don't apply to just these two sonatas. The slow movement of the 5th symphony is also in A flat. DavidRF (talk) 16:36, 15 December 2007 (UTC)